[meteorite-list] Thin Sections rusting/tests
From: Michael Blood <mlblood_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 09:43:29 2004 Message-ID: <3B41C1C8.14C4_at_home.com> Frank wrote (in part): >... In my opinion, a potential problem lies here in that these commercia= l manufacturers deal primarily in terrestrial rocks where rusting is seld= em a problem. I would hope that the = sellers of meteorite thin sections inform their manufacturers = of potential rusting problems and have their thin sections prepared using kerosene or whatever liquid is now used as a slurry/coolant for "special" samples and not water. I looked at my slides of recent falls and about half are stained = with iron oxides around metal inclusions. Whether or not the staining occurred prior to thin section manufacture or = >after is unknown but suggests a potential problem to me.... --------- Hi Frank & all, Since this cover slip/no cover slip controversy began, I spend some time talking to my thin section maker about = a variety of things, including the above questions you = posed. I cannot speak for other makers, but the individual = I use is the same person David New used and his process is = as follows: 1) He cuts the material using isopropal alcohol 2) He grinds the material using oil 3) The whafer of material is attached to the slide (& those with cover slips have the cover slip attached, as well) = with an epoxy which seals the material, making it = impervious to rusting (due to deprivation of oxygen - = which is REQUIRED for "oxidation" to occur) 4) For those without cover slips, he polishes with diamond = pastes (with an oil base) as follows: = 1st is paste of 6 micron diamonds followed by: paste of 3 micron diamonds followed by paste of 1micron diamonds (To give you an idea of how fine this is, I used to do lapidary work many years ago. Typical finish on a cabashaun was as follows: 350 grit 600 grit Oxide polish VERY VERY obsessive lapidaries would skip the oxide = polish and go to: 1,200 grit 3,000 grit 25,000 grit 50,000 grit This would leave a slightly "deeper" polish. the grit size = indicated the number of holes in a screen PER INCH that = size of diamond would fit through. = However, a MICRON is 1/1,000th of a MILIMETER - there are 576 cmm to the cubic inch). = The lack of cover slip leaves the thin section exposed = to possible damage during use and simply in removing and replacing it in its storage box. However, it also makes the = slide an ideal specimen for precise testing with = extremely expensive equipment (which does not nessessarily have to be owned to be used). = As a result of the Pro/Con cover slip controversy, coupled with my discussion with my thin section maker I have decided = I will have all very rare material made WITHOUT cover slips = and the less rare material made WITH cover slips. = The results of the survey were 2 to 1 IN FAVOR OF cover = slips. HOWEVER, responses were less than 10 people! So, that did not carry as much weight with me as another part of the discussion I had with my TS maker, as follows: There are THREE primary tests conducted on thin sections that require no cover slip - the fourth test - and THE test MOST UTILIZED in analysis is observation of extinctions of colors as the crossed polarized light is set at various angles and CAN = BE DONE WITH COVER SLIPS on the thin sections. What is particularly interesting is that the OTHER 3 tests can be done on ANY small sample with a properly polished = surface - these tests do NOT require the sample be a thin section at all! However, thin sections are particularly = convenient AND, in the case of very rare, and, therefore, expensive, material it makes sense to conserve the cost = of duplication of specimens by simply excluding cover slips = from the thin sections of these more rare materials. = These 3 tests are as follows and involve ONLY the surface of the material - they do NOT require, or even utilize the translucency of a thin section: 1) - reflecting light microscope looks at the surface only to tell the = difference between silicates & metalics 2) - scanning electron Microscope up to 30K power - surface examination 3) - electron microprobe = up to 400 power - & electron beam that = "excites the surface" of the material -------- Within the next 36 hrs I will have the Lunite, NWA 482 = and the Winonaite, NWA 516 available in Thin Sections. = Both will be without cover slips and prepared as described = above. = They will have a MUCH larger viewing area than the = Lunar Thin Sections Steve had on eBay several days ago (not that those were at all "undesireable" {I lusted after = each and every one, myself!} - just that these will be much = larger) and will be priced lower per cubic mm of viewing = area than those which sold at the auction. = Best wishes to all, Michael = -- =93Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were = a member of Congress...But I repeat myself.=94 - Mark Twain -- 1) "Hunger Site" Donates 3/4 cup of rice EACH DAY you visit & click = http://www.thehungersite.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/HungerSite -- 2) "Rainforest Site" Donates 14.4sqare feet EACH DAY you visit & click http://www.therainforestsite.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/RainforestSite -- 3) "The Breast Cancer Site" Donates free mamograms to empoverished women (click daily): http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/ -- Michael Blood Meteorites for sale at: http://www.meteorite.com/Michael_Blood/catalog.htmReceived on Tue 03 Jul 2001 08:59:53 AM PDT |
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