[meteorite-list] Moroccan lies form the French people.
From: David Hardy <mdavidhardy_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 09:42:00 2004
Welcome back Michael, you've been missed.
--- Michael Casper <Michael_at_caspercoin.com> wrote:
> Dear list,
> The French are about to fall. Just sit back an enjoy the show. I am here
> and have some goodies that I'll make available when the dust clears.
> oxoxox, MC
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike Farmer
> To: Michael Cottingham
> Cc: wanadoo ; meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 11:10 AM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Moroccan lies form the French people.
> This makes me SICK! Franco, YOU ARE A LIAR!!!! I am just back from my 4th
> trip to Morocco. Let me tell everyone on this list the truth. THESE FRENCH
> ARE ALL buying meteorites in Morocco. I have been there enough to see what is
> happening. THEY ARE ALL lying to us. They have been for years. How do you
> think that this large market has formed over there. Bruno Fectay is now angry
> that I just bought an incredible oriented bullet shaped one kilo achondrite.
> He has been trying to get us in trouble in Morocco since almost two weeks ago
> when he found out we were there. They are pissed off at the perceived
> intrusion into "their" territory. Franco wont leave well enough alone. We are
> not the ones lying through our teeth. I have yet to find a meteorite in
> Morocco. Someday maybe, but not yet, nor have I said I have found any. All of
> the others though seem to only find their meteorites. WHAT CRAP!!!!!
> I have been told by EVERYONE there that ALL of the FRENCH dealers BUY
> meteorites there, Bruno and Carine Fectay, Marc, Luc, and Jim Labenne,
> Franco, and all others have bought and sold meteorites from the sellers
> there, most tell the truth about where they got them, some do not.
> Franco, stop with this " holier than though %##$ ^E$%$# and back off"
> It is getting old. The French started the whole Morocco fiasco, the
> Americans and Canadians are simply branching out there. So go whine to your
> countrymen about the mess that they started.
> I warn any people that want to go to Morocco that certain French people are
> now trying to cause problems with customs for any Americans that go for
> meteorites to Morocco.
> This is starting to piss me off just a tad Bruno, watch out or the problems
> can be started here in Tucson too. This is my turf, if you want to get me in
> trouble in Africa, I assure you that I can play the same game here.
> PS, I had the priveledge of watching the full Lunar eclipse from the Sahara
> Desert, I didnt even know that it was coming, but it sure was awe inspiring.
> Holding meteorites and looking up as the moon grew red and dark, the stars
> brightened, the wind blew....... Wonderful.
> Michael Farmer
> Meteorite HUNTER, BUYER, SELLER, and everything in between.
> Have a nice day!
> Michael Cottingham wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael Cottingham
> To: wanadoo ; meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.comSent: Wednesday, January
> 10, 2001 6:10 PMSubject: Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE SALE PART FOUR Last
> Franco & All, Franco. I was hunting meteorites in Mexico, Chile,Boliva,
> Arizona, New Mexico, Kansas, Texas, andNebraska long before you ever saw
> your firstmeteorite. What the hell is your problem! If you want to attack me
> in public about sellingNWA meteorites you better know your facts.I have been
> hunting meteorites, years before youever thought of doing such. NWA
> meteorites are what they are and I don'tsell them pretending to be anything
> else.I think everyone on this side of the oceanknows that we buy them over
> there! Get a life.Shut your mouth. Know your facts. Who the hell are you? I
> hunt meteorites!I collect meteorites! I buy meteorites! I sellmeteorites!
> Your wasting my time. Next time yourefer to me in an email you better know
> whatthe hell you are talking about. Best Wishes Michael Cottingham
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: wanadoo
> To: Michael Cottingham ; meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 2:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE SALE PART FOUR Last One
> Michael I read your post, Nice talk. You want to have fun selling
> unclassified meteorites. NO WAY. On this list, everybody knows that I am
> against NWA. And that I will react each time some retailers try to change a
> nice passion into a basic business. Last year I had hard talks with XOXOXO,
> Yuk.( BTW happy comeback MC. I really think that we all missed you. You were
> drastic in business, funny in posts and firm on your positions) But at last I
> regret that he is not as active as before on the list. he represented the
> hard sale, to my eyes. This year, its is really worse. I do not like the way
> that some present the game and mislead people, particularly newbees. Sorry
> man, buying meteorites in Morocco is not hunting. You are a retailer. Sorry
> again for all of you guys who hunt themselves for mets and stay silent. This
> Micheal is not a hunter. All hunters will agree.Hunting is a clean job:
> hunters are alone in front of large bare lands, not dealing 55 gallons drums
> of nowhere stones in market place backshops. There are still amateurs of
> meteorites. Amateurs is a french word which comes from aimer ( to love). an
> amateur is someone who loves what he does. How can you love meteorites when
> you try to have customers gambling on a possible lunar in you stock.
> Meteorites do not deserve your lotery. Hunting on the field is a lotery,
> because no one knows what will be the next find. But nobody pyas for it
> except the hunter. Buying second hand 55 gallons drums when all the " souk"
> buyers have taken their first choice is not offering any chance to any
> collectors. Even for a hundred bucks. It is misleding them. And I wait for
> your true agruties to explain where is the chance to receive some valuable
> meteorite in a stock visited by all the retailers that live on our planet.
> Offer true first hand material. And the only way to be sure of meteorite
> origin is to pick them up yourself from the ground.But as I said last year,
> truth is hard to tell, but much easier than any pseudo omission. Have them
> analysed, find really where they come from, cross the border, go to Algeria,
> to Mauritania, bring back true photos, GPS positions and stop the NWA game.
> So long, Shame on NWAs and on all involved in them. True best wishes to
> authentic hunters. They will recognize themsleves. FRANCO ----Message
> De : Michael Cottingham <mikewren_at_gilanet.com>
> À : meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> Date : mercredi 10 janvier 2001 23:17
> Objet : [meteorite-list] METEORITE SALE PART FOUR Last One
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