[meteorite-list] Phil Bland Article

From: Sara Russell <sarr_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 09:41:13 2004
Message-ID: <E14Y92S-00025N-00_at_pat.nhm.ac.uk>

>From Phil Bland

>Here's the latest installment:
>
>Sterling,
>I'm interested to see where the 500 per year number came from, as I've also
>seen it bandied about but hadn't known its history. I also quite like the
>idea of using impacts on dogs and humans! As you say, it's methodologically
>sweet. However, I think that whichever method we choose we'll be doing very
>well to get the errors below about a factor-of-two. That was Halliday's
>estimate for MOPR, and our's is probably similar, so its worth keeping that
>in mind when making a comparison - 23,930 and 20,000 are identical when this
>error is taken into account. Although in one of his early papers he
>calculates flux at the top of the atmosphere, later on most of Halliday's
>estimates are given as a flux to the ground surface, so they're directly
>comparable to ours and yours. It's worth also bearing in mind that when
>looking at even the recent history of estimates of meteorite flux,
>differences of several orders of magnitude were common.
>I think the difference that you note between the flux of individual
>fragments and the meteorite as an intact rock might well be the source of
>some of the discrepancy. We worked quite hard to remove the fragmentation
>problem from our study, just because it may be partly produced by local
>weathering. But a look at your average meteorite fall gives you an idea of
>just how many fragments can result. I think Buchwald does some review of
>this in his book.
>
>Stream flow,a nd transport of meteorites, is something we thought about. In
>the Sahara, it may be problem when considering older samples, although there
>might be ways around this by restricting yourself to younger meteorites. In
>the Nullarbor at least we can effectively discount it. There have not been
>active streams there for >100,000 years, and in addition, many meteorites
>(e.g. Billygoat Donga) are found with numerous weathered fragments clustered
>together over only a few 10's square metres, suggesting that weathering
>frgaments the meteorites, but the fragments aren't transported far.
>You're right about the Esquimaux using irons, and in Australia there is
>plenty of evidence that they use tektites as cutting tools, but no evidence
>that they've ever used meteorites. Alex Bevan wrote a neat paper on this
>actually, and he also has something to say on the problem of the small
>number of recovered irons. We also have a small number of irons in the
>Antarctic population, and there's no chance that any locals have made use of
>them there, but interestingly the overall percentage of irons seems to be
>similar between Antarctica, and the different hot desert populations. A
>simpler explanation may be that the fall population is just slightly out -
>falls are reported as falls when the meteorite is recovered, not if someone
>only sees a fireball and fails to find the meteorite, and it's a lot easier
>to recognise a lump of metal as something unusual. It's just a thought.
>
>If you have any problems getting hold of any papers - my stuff or anything
>else - just let me know and I'll be happy to send you copies.
>
>best wishes,
>
>Phil
>
>
Received on Wed 28 Feb 2001 11:01:16 AM PST


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