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Re: Odd meteorite on Ebay-Earlier post

Dave wrote
>Now that eBay discussion is now allowed in this forum, I would suggest
>going after the seller of the Ureilite (sp?) Hippo.  This seller doesn't
>say "may be a meteorite" or "possibly is"....he says "it is."
I> have my doubts.

Who are you to go after the seller??????  If this wasn't being done through
e-mail, you WOULD NOT "go after" anyone.  YOU send the hippo seller your
NAME/ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBER and tell him you are "going after him".  You
won't do it, will you?  Someday one member of the wannabe posse, who hides
behind an e-mail address is going to GO AFTER the wrong person and they will
have their ass in court.  As a matter or principal, I do believe i just
might e-mail the hippo seller and tell him to check the archives of this
list so he can get the names, DAVE, of the people threatening him.

Sincerely

Joel

P.S.  In an earlier message, i refered to an English dealer being trashed on
this list.  I was not refering to shill bidding, i was refering to other
dealers saying "there is no way he has that material forsale, it can't be
authentic."  That was the trashing i was refering to.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Andrews <dandre10@cybertrails.com>
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: Odd meteorite on Ebay-Earlier post


>Hello list,
>Sorry for the late reply to this thread, but I was away to a funeral for
>a family member.
>
>dean bessey wrote:
>> Not too long ago there was a big fiasco about a dealer overseas in >the
UK selling some Mars material and Peekskill material.   He was >trashed
beyond belief on this list.
>
>The reason this company/person was "trashed" was not for the material
>they were selling.  They were "trashed" for bidding on their own items.
>Then, they would cancel their bids to see what the maximum bid of the
>current high bidder was, and reinstate their bid to $1 under that
>maximum bid squeezing every penny from their bidders.  Very sneaky!
>They were caught and suspended from eBay.
>
>This is the reason the meteorite posse was formed, because several
>"dealers/members" didn't want to hear about eBay auctions as they felt
>it was unrelated to this list or their hobby/business.  "I hate eBay!"
>"I don't use eBay" was heard. Therefore, we started our own list, in
>which we have 14 members. Many invitations were extended to list members
>to join us in the past. I assume this narrow-sighted stance is now
>forgotten?
>
>> Dear Mike, Bob, George, Will and Bill and List;
>> Who needs the Meteorite Sheriff when we have the "Good Will Militia".
>> Dictionary notes that they drill once in a while and come out in
>> emergencies...how fitting.
>> What a grand adventure, Thank You!
>> Humble rocker,
>> Dave Freeman  109.13' w  41.35'n (somewheres west)
>
>No one needs the posse or myself if eBay is no longer a "4-letter" word
>here on the list.  I'm glad to see some involvement in the area at
>last.  The posse has done some good behind the scenes, and was not
>readily visible if you weren't a member.    Actually, we are concerned
>with meteorite fraud in general...not just eBay.  However, the biggest
>portion of our problem, was unfortunately, with eBay.  There was even a
>customer who stated that the two meteorites he purchased from two very
>reputable dealers on this list, were tested at a lab and fake!  He was
>proved wrong.
>
>Now about the auction for the basalt being called a meteorite.  This
>person clearly stated in his description, "be it a rock, or a meteorite,
>let the bidding begin".  He admits right there, it may not be a
>meteorite.  A member of the posse had already been in contact with the
>seller.  Also, the high bidder (who was sniped near the end of the
>auction), has an "About ME" page with eBay.  On this page, he declares
>himself an avid meteorite collector who is very serious about his
>hobby.  He even goes on to say he owns a 30 lb. Gibeon specimen.  I
>would certainly think that he should know better and must be willing to
>take a chance on this auction.
>
>Now that eBay discussion is now allowed in this forum, I would suggest
>going after the seller of the Ureilite (sp?) Hippo.  This seller doesn't
>say "may be a meteorite" or "possibly is"....he says "it is."
>I have my doubts.
>
>It's been REAL and it's been FUN...but not REAL FUN.
>Ex-Acting Sheriff (or at least in neutral for now),
>Dave
>
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