Hi Anne. Thanks for the agreement. I would be the Martin from The Accretion Desk. Best. On Sat, Jul 27, 2024 at 6:54?PM Anne Black <impactika at aol.com> wrote: > Thank you Martin (but which Martin are you?) > And YES I agree entirely with you. 2 very big issues there: > Classification, and Trust. > Anybody else? > > Anne Black > IMPACTIKA.com > impactika at aol.com > > > On Saturday, July 27, 2024 at 04:29:18 PM MDT, Swan Valley Bushcraft via > Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > > > I?m pretty good with sugar donuts too. I can tell a sugar donut from a > muffin from a scone at a distance. And I can tell a red wine from a white > by smell alone. But those are the same rough physical characteristics we > used 150 years ago. They worked well for telling the difference between > stones and irons but things got complicated quickly. Many of us have bought > unclassified meteorites without hesitation feeling confident that the rock > was in fact a meteorite. But while I have strong suspicions about a further > or deeper classification, I feel it would be irresponsible to suggest > anything more specific if selling the piece especially if mentioning a > classification outside ordinary chondrite. That said, the trust issues that > the meteorite collecting community faces are certainly far beyond informed > guesses about unclassified material. > > Best > Martin > > > On Sat, Jul 27, 2024 at 2:53?AM Ineed Moresleep via Meteorite-list < > meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > > > ? > ? > ? > Hello there meteorite list-serve members! > > This may seem like an oddball offering, but I?ve got a box of sugar donuts > for sale if anyone?s interested. At least, I think they?re sugar donuts. I > haven?t actually opened the box to check, but based on my own donut > experience, I can tell you with fairly reasonable certainty that these are > most likely sugar donuts. They smell like sugar donuts and some of the > crumbly crumbs that have fallen out of the box look like the sugary > sprinkles that sugar donuts always have. Plus, I got them from a guy who > buys his donuts on this street that has a bunch of Lamar?s donuts shops > that run sugar donuts specials on Saturdays, and he almost always gets the > special on that street. > > I know that there?s a number of you who?d rather know for certain what > kind of donut you?re buying, so this box probably isn?t for you. But there > are also lots of people who?d just be happy to have a donut. That?s the > market I?m looking to sell this box to. And they?ll just take my word that > this is a box of sugar donuts unless they actually want to open the box and > find out for sure themselves after they buy it. > > Cheers! > > Stephanie Copeland > > On Jul 25, 2024, at 11:29?PM, meteorite-list-request at meteoritecentral.com > wrote: > > ?Send Meteorite-list mailing list submissions to > meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > meteorite-list-request at meteoritecentral.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > meteorite-list-owner at meteoritecentral.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Meteorite-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Meteorite unclassified (Anne Black) > 2. Re: Meteorite unclassified (Graham Ensor) > 3. Meteorite Picture of the Day (paul at tucsonmeteorites.com) > 4. Re: Meteorite unclassified (Anne Black) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2024 01:21:54 +0000 (UTC) > From: Anne Black <impactika at aol.com> > To: Rhett Bourland <rhett.bourland at gmail.com>, Graham Ensor > <graham.ensor at gmail.com> > Cc: Meteorite List <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite unclassified > Message-ID: <1555549355.2141845.1721870514727 at mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Sorry Graham, I do have provenance for all of mine. > > Anne Black > IMPACTIKA.comimpactika at aol.com > > > On Wednesday, July 24, 2024 at 04:27:21 PM MDT, Graham Ensor via > Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > > just an addition...an example. > Would people buy one of these Allende meteorites or similar from other > dealers pages which I think we are all pretty confident are Allende's...but > I'm pretty sure these were just fond in the same strewnfield and have not > been analysed to make sure. > https://impactika.com/product/allende-carbonaceous/ > Graham > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 4:46?PM Rhett Bourland <rhett.bourland at gmail.com> > wrote: > > Honestly, just because a meteorite is found in a known strewn field > doesn't automatically make it part of the same fall.? Twink Monrad found > Golden Rule and Golden Mile in the Gold Basin strewn field.? Calcalong > Creek was originally sold as part of the Camel Donga strew field.? NWA482 > was originally thought to be a eucrite.? The folks who go to Antarctica > each year go back to the same areas to find more because of the way > glaciers move. > When talking about how not getting everything classified is bad for > science, that isn't just about common material being sold as something much > rarer.? The real danger is rare and scientifically important pieces being > sold as something more common. > On Tue, Jul 23, 2024, 10:22?AM Graham Ensor <graham.ensor at gmail.com> > wrote: > > I see no problem in anybody saying a probable meteorite is unclassified > but is likely to be a certain type. It is no different on line or throught > the met list than traveling through Morocco or visiting a show, looking at > hundreds of unclassified probable meteorites, and discussing the likelyhood > of that or what type they may be with the seller. That's the way many > dealers work to find unusual types that then get taken further to be > officially classified. I see no fault with a NWA seller working in this > way. The The fault comes if buyer does not then get it analysed or > classified and tries to sell it on as an authentic classified meteorite. > There are also thousands of meteorites amongst the hundreds of collections > that came through NWA dealers from established large strewnfields which sit > there as examples of a variety of falls/finds and have never been cut and > classified. Just found as part of a new fall/find as it's impossible for > every piece to be classified....examples are Chelya > binsk, Ribbeck, Erg Chech 002, Tissint, Holbrook,...the list is endless. I > suspect very few collections consist of specimens where each individual has > been classified and most have individuals of those I've mentioned (or > others) that have never seen a scientist. If you are new to meteorites or > have very little experience then this is probably not the avenue for you to > buy for a collection unless you are happy to go to the trouble of getting > analysis done. > G > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 2:32?PM Rhett Bourland via Meteorite-list < > meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > > Educated guesses aren't classifications.? Nobody can do that.? I've got > close to a couple hundred pieces in my collection that I've built up over > the past 25 years.? I own classes of meteorites that most museums don't > even have because the museums that I got them from told me where the other > pieces were.? I can safely say that I have handled and seen even more in > that time.? The IMCA got started in my living room. I wouldn't even call > something a meteorite unless it got tested.? As Anne Black recently said, > people guessing what they have and presenting it as such is nothing but > harmful for the science and commercial trade of these rocks and that woman > has seen and handled stuff that I can only dream of. > On Mon, Jul 22, 2024, 3:37?PM <mendy.ouzillou at gmail.com> wrote: > > > Rhett, > > ? > > Our North African meteorite family has earned the right to make educated > guesses, especially after they have proven themselves to be reputable > dealers AND have examined the specimen. They have handled far more > meteorites than most dealers and collectors. There is no surprise that > they, and Mohamed in particular, can tell the difference between a CO and > another type of meteorite. Mohamed was fully transparent and clearly stated > that it is unclassified. There is nothing inauthentic about the posting. > > ? > > I have no ulterior motive in responding to this post other than desiring > respectful discourse. > > ? > > Sincerely, > > ? > > Mendy > > ? > > From: Meteorite-list <meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com> On > Behalf Of Rhett Bourland via Meteorite-list > Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2024 9:53 AM > To: Benzaki Mohamed <kemkemexpedition at gmail.com> > Cc: Meteorite List <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite unclassified > > ? > > It's unclassified and yet you're calling it a CO?? That doesn't sound very > authentic to me. > > ? > > On Sat, Jul 20, 2024, 10:17?AM Benzaki Mohamed via Meteorite-list < > meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > > > Hi all members hop have a good day. > > ?Everyone interested will be interested by a largeste co carbonaceous > unclassified please contacte? me.all beste.? > > ______________________________________________ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > ______________________________________________ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > ______________________________________________ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://pairlist2.pair.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/attachments/20240725/da1b976a/attachment-0001.htm > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2024 08:16:04 +0100 > From: Graham Ensor <graham.ensor at gmail.com> > To: Anne Black <impactika at aol.com> > Cc: Rhett Bourland <rhett.bourland at gmail.com>, Meteorite List > <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite unclassified > Message-ID: > <CAJkn+kYu6v4kw5USOxxUZSp6jK_HCwn_1ERnL+2z5anhirc7Kg at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Yes, sorry Anne if you thought I was being critical...I'm not....that's > what I was saying...you have individuals that can be traced back to the > finder in that strewnfield most likely..I'm not doubting the provenances > you have but have all those individuals have been analysed? Much the same > as some of the very trustworthy educated and experienced Moroccan dealers > and many other dealers and collectors selling individuals....so then buyers > are happy to buy those individuals. Unless I am wrong and somehow all those > individuals have each been analysed scientifically without cutting them? I > have a wonderful David New individual Allende but I doubt it has ever been > analysed properly to confirm that....I also have a wonderful uncut, > individual Millbillilie from you which I'm confident is what it is without > analysis. > > G > > Graham > > On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 2:21?AM Anne Black <impactika at aol.com> wrote: > > > Sorry Graham, I do have provenance for all of mine. > > > > > > Anne Black > > > > IMPACTIKA.com > > impactika at aol.com > > > > > > On Wednesday, July 24, 2024 at 04:27:21 PM MDT, Graham Ensor via > > Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > > > > > > just an addition...an example. > > > > Would people buy one of these Allende meteorites or similar from other > > dealers pages which I think we are all pretty confident are > Allende's...but > > I'm pretty sure these were just fond in the same strewnfield and have not > > been analysed to make sure. > > > > https://impactika.com/product/allende-carbonaceous/ > > > > Graham > > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 4:46?PM Rhett Bourland <rhett.bourland at gmail.com > > > > wrote: > > > > Honestly, just because a meteorite is found in a known strewn field > > doesn't automatically make it part of the same fall. Twink Monrad found > > Golden Rule and Golden Mile in the Gold Basin strewn field. Calcalong > > Creek was originally sold as part of the Camel Donga strew field. NWA482 > > was originally thought to be a eucrite. The folks who go to Antarctica > > each year go back to the same areas to find more because of the way > > glaciers move. > > > > When talking about how not getting everything classified is bad for > > science, that isn't just about common material being sold as something > much > > rarer. The real danger is rare and scientifically important pieces being > > sold as something more common. > > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2024, 10:22?AM Graham Ensor <graham.ensor at gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > I see no problem in anybody saying a probable meteorite is unclassified > > but is likely to be a certain type. It is no different on line or > throught > > the met list than traveling through Morocco or visiting a show, looking > at > > hundreds of unclassified probable meteorites, and discussing the > likelyhood > > of that or what type they may be with the seller. That's the way many > > dealers work to find unusual types that then get taken further to be > > officially classified. I see no fault with a NWA seller working in this > > way. The The fault comes if buyer does not then get it analysed or > > classified and tries to sell it on as an authentic classified meteorite. > > There are also thousands of meteorites amongst the hundreds of > collections > > that came through NWA dealers from established large strewnfields which > sit > > there as examples of a variety of falls/finds and have never been cut and > > classified. Just found as part of a new fall/find as it's impossible for > > every piece to be classified....examples are Chelyabinsk, Ribbeck, Erg > > Chech 002, Tissint, Holbrook,...the list is endless. I suspect very few > > collections consist of specimens where each individual has been > classified > > and most have individuals of those I've mentioned (or others) that have > > never seen a scientist. If you are new to meteorites or have very little > > experience then this is probably not the avenue for you to buy for a > > collection unless you are happy to go to the trouble of getting analysis > > done. > > > > G > > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 2:32?PM Rhett Bourland via Meteorite-list < > > meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > > > > Educated guesses aren't classifications. Nobody can do that. I've got > > close to a couple hundred pieces in my collection that I've built up over > > the past 25 years. I own classes of meteorites that most museums don't > > even have because the museums that I got them from told me where the > other > > pieces were. I can safely say that I have handled and seen even more in > > that time. The IMCA got started in my living room. I wouldn't even call > > something a meteorite unless it got tested. As Anne Black recently said, > > people guessing what they have and presenting it as such is nothing but > > harmful for the science and commercial trade of these rocks and that > woman > > has seen and handled stuff that I can only dream of. > > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2024, 3:37?PM <mendy.ouzillou at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Rhett, > > > > > > > > Our North African meteorite family has earned the right to make educated > > guesses, especially after they have proven themselves to be reputable > > dealers AND have examined the specimen. They have handled far more > > meteorites than most dealers and collectors. There is no surprise that > > they, and Mohamed in particular, can tell the difference between a CO and > > another type of meteorite. Mohamed was fully transparent and clearly > stated > > that it is unclassified. There is nothing inauthentic about the posting. > > > > > > > > I have no ulterior motive in responding to this post other than desiring > > respectful discourse. > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > Mendy > > > > > > > > *From:* Meteorite-list <meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com> *On > > Behalf Of *Rhett Bourland via Meteorite-list > > *Sent:* Saturday, July 20, 2024 9:53 AM > > *To:* Benzaki Mohamed <kemkemexpedition at gmail.com> > > *Cc:* Meteorite List <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > > *Subject:* Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite unclassified > > > > > > > > It's unclassified and yet you're calling it a CO? That doesn't sound > very > > authentic to me. > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 20, 2024, 10:17?AM Benzaki Mohamed via Meteorite-list < > > meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > > > > Hi all members hop have a good day. > > > > Everyone interested will be interested by a largeste co carbonaceous > > unclassified please contacte me.all beste. > > > > ______________________________________________ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > > https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > ______________________________________________ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > > https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > ______________________________________________ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > > https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://pairlist2.pair.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/attachments/20240725/ec048b57/attachment-0001.htm > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2024 00:35:55 -0700 > From: <paul at tucsonmeteorites.com> > To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day > Message-ID: <3646C7946BA841C096EA7E2BD11044F2 at secureserver.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Thursday, Jul 25 2024 Meteorite Picture of the Day: Orange River > > Contributed by: jnmczurich > > http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=07/25/2024 > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://pairlist2.pair.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/attachments/20240725/6188d5bd/attachment-0001.htm > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2024 16:49:18 +0000 (UTC) > From: Anne Black <impactika at aol.com> > To: Graham Ensor <graham.ensor at gmail.com> > Cc: Rhett Bourland <rhett.bourland at gmail.com>, Meteorite List > <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite unclassified > Message-ID: <1812802914.1566899.1721926158892 at mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Thank you Graham.As we both know it is extremely difficult to be > absolutely sure of what we have and our sources no matter how hard we try, > and I do wish that all meteorites were handled the way Almahata Sitta > (thank you Siegfried Haberer and Addi Bishop) and Twannberg (Thank you Marc > Jost and Beda Hoffman) are, verified and numbered. Time consuming but > certainly worth it.? > Also:Most of those new meteorites transit through Morocco. Hasna > Chennaoui-Aoudjehane, who is certainly an expert, is right there at the > University Hassan II in Casablanca, why isn't she asked to help and check > those meteorites??? > Anne BlackIMPACTIKA.comimpactika at aol.com > > > On Thursday, July 25, 2024 at 01:16:17 AM MDT, Graham Ensor < > graham.ensor at gmail.com> wrote: > > Yes, sorry Anne if you thought I was being critical...I'm not....that's > what I was saying...you have individuals that can be traced back to the > finder in that strewnfield most likely..I'm not doubting the provenances > you have but have all those individuals have been analysed? Much the same > as some of the very trustworthy educated and experienced Moroccan dealers > and many other dealers and collectors selling individuals....so then buyers > are happy to buy those individuals. Unless I am wrong and somehow all those > individuals have each been analysed scientifically without cutting them? I > have a wonderful David New individual Allende but I doubt it has ever been > analysed properly to confirm that....I also have a wonderful uncut, > individual Millbillilie from you which I'm confident is what it is without > analysis. > G > > Graham > > On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 2:21?AM Anne Black <impactika at aol.com> wrote: > > Sorry Graham, I do have provenance for all of mine. > > Anne Black > IMPACTIKA.comimpactika at aol.com > > > On Wednesday, July 24, 2024 at 04:27:21 PM MDT, Graham Ensor via > Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > > just an addition...an example. > Would people buy one of these Allende meteorites or similar from other > dealers pages which I think we are all pretty confident are Allende's...but > I'm pretty sure these were just fond in the same strewnfield and have not > been analysed to make sure. > https://impactika.com/product/allende-carbonaceous/ > Graham > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 4:46?PM Rhett Bourland <rhett.bourland at gmail.com> > wrote: > > Honestly, just because a meteorite is found in a known strewn field > doesn't automatically make it part of the same fall.? Twink Monrad found > Golden Rule and Golden Mile in the Gold Basin strewn field.? Calcalong > Creek was originally sold as part of the Camel Donga strew field.? NWA482 > was originally thought to be a eucrite.? The folks who go to Antarctica > each year go back to the same areas to find more because of the way > glaciers move. > When talking about how not getting everything classified is bad for > science, that isn't just about common material being sold as something much > rarer.? The real danger is rare and scientifically important pieces being > sold as something more common. > On Tue, Jul 23, 2024, 10:22?AM Graham Ensor <graham.ensor at gmail.com> > wrote: > > I see no problem in anybody saying a probable meteorite is unclassified > but is likely to be a certain type. It is no different on line or throught > the met list than traveling through Morocco or visiting a show, looking at > hundreds of unclassified probable meteorites, and discussing the likelyhood > of that or what type they may be with the seller. That's the way many > dealers work to find unusual types that then get taken further to be > officially classified. I see no fault with a NWA seller working in this > way. The The fault comes if buyer does not then get it analysed or > classified and tries to sell it on as an authentic classified meteorite. > There are also thousands of meteorites amongst the hundreds of collections > that came through NWA dealers from established large strewnfields which sit > there as examples of a variety of falls/finds and have never been cut and > classified. Just found as part of a new fall/find as it's impossible for > every piece to be classified....examples are Chelya > binsk, Ribbeck, Erg Chech 002, Tissint, Holbrook,...the list is endless. I > suspect very few collections consist of specimens where each individual has > been classified and most have individuals of those I've mentioned (or > others) that have never seen a scientist. If you are new to meteorites or > have very little experience then this is probably not the avenue for you to > buy for a collection unless you are happy to go to the trouble of getting > analysis done. > G > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 2:32?PM Rhett Bourland via Meteorite-list < > meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > > Educated guesses aren't classifications.? Nobody can do that.? I've got > close to a couple hundred pieces in my collection that I've built up over > the past 25 years.? I own classes of meteorites that most museums don't > even have because the museums that I got them from told me where the other > pieces were.? I can safely say that I have handled and seen even more in > that time.? The IMCA got started in my living room. I wouldn't even call > something a meteorite unless it got tested.? As Anne Black recently said, > people guessing what they have and presenting it as such is nothing but > harmful for the science and commercial trade of these rocks and that woman > has seen and handled stuff that I can only dream of. > On Mon, Jul 22, 2024, 3:37?PM <mendy.ouzillou at gmail.com> wrote: > > > Rhett, > > ? > > Our North African meteorite family has earned the right to make educated > guesses, especially after they have proven themselves to be reputable > dealers AND have examined the specimen. They have handled far more > meteorites than most dealers and collectors. There is no surprise that > they, and Mohamed in particular, can tell the difference between a CO and > another type of meteorite. Mohamed was fully transparent and clearly stated > that it is unclassified. There is nothing inauthentic about the posting. > > ? > > I have no ulterior motive in responding to this post other than desiring > respectful discourse. > > ? > > Sincerely, > > ? > > Mendy > > ? > > From: Meteorite-list <meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com> On > Behalf Of Rhett Bourland via Meteorite-list > Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2024 9:53 AM > To: Benzaki Mohamed <kemkemexpedition at gmail.com> > Cc: Meteorite List <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite unclassified > > ? > > It's unclassified and yet you're calling it a CO?? That doesn't sound very > authentic to me. > > ? > > On Sat, Jul 20, 2024, 10:17?AM Benzaki Mohamed via Meteorite-list < > meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > > > Hi all members hop have a good day. > > ?Everyone interested will be interested by a largeste co carbonaceous > unclassified please contacte? me.all beste.? > > ______________________________________________ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > ______________________________________________ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > ______________________________________________ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://pairlist2.pair.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/attachments/20240725/18cf8cac/attachment-0001.htm > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > ______________________________________________ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 265, Issue 29 > *********************************************** > ______________________________________________ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > ______________________________________________ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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