[meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos

From: Michael Gilmer <meteoritemike_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 12:03:27 -0400
Message-ID: <CAKBPJW8yimQO_2FY-JFQ1BMp+yvTdWrVg1SGCmxrHJUiF2Ct9A_at_mail.gmail.com>

Hi Marcin,

I don't buy on Amazon, I don't own any Apple products, I own a dumb
flip-phone, and my PC runs on Linux.

I walk the walk. Stop making generalizations. Not all Americans are
dumbasses or hypocrites.

The rest of your points I do not take issues with. But, I am also not
the one calling another's views "bullshit" or labeling Americans with
a broad brush about being hypocrites when ordering Amazon stuff on
their iPhones or using Microsoft at home. Some of us are cutting these
immoral and unethical companies/services out of our lives to the best
of our ability.

Best regards,

MikeG


On 6/15/20, Marcin Cimala - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list
<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> > What matters most of all is everyone being in *one* place. The problem
> with Facebook is there are now a million and one different groups, this has
>
> split the meteorite community into different places to the point that either
>
> you need to monitor 6 different media feeds 24/7 or you are out of the
> loop.
>
> There are few groups worth to look
> Meteorites (3800 ppl)
> Meteorite Hunters, Collectors, and Enthusiasts (6500) by Pat Brown and Jason
>
> Utas
> Meteorites, Tektites, Impactites & Ephemera (1700) hold by Mendy !
> Meteorite Club (4800) by Alex Folda, John Higgins , Takis Theodossiou
> Polandmet Meteorites (1200) my own, worth to look becouse Im very
> "multimedia" guy
> In fact I dont know why there are so big differences in members.
>
> thats enough to be on-line with latest news
> But most peoples are on the same groups posting same things on them all so
> You cant miss anything. And You can scroll down the wall, so You can see
> what was before. 30min a day and You are informed well.
>
> So this is a tool and this depends on use how we use it, not matter who made
>
> it. Do You think Guns kill or peoples kill using guns. So this is the same
> useless discusion about Zuckenberg. Email is keeped by Google or Yahoo or
> whatever. Anyone think here that Google is blessed by God world friendly
> organization of nice next door guys? They are the same "nazi" like
> Zuckenberg, Microsoft, or Apple or that evil Amazon. Hey americans, You buy
>
> on amazon, You own iphone ? But You hate Facebook :D Interesting. Really.
>
>
> -----[ MARCIN CIMALA ]----[ +48 793567667 ]-----
> http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
> http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com
> --------[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]--------
>
>
>
>
>
>> The more it fragments the less knowledge and 'community' there will be.
>> The advantage of the metlist is there is pretty much only one metlist,
>> yes, it's an old school way of doing things, and it rests on people making
>>
>> the effort to post and contribute.
>>
>> Facebook does also have massive UI plusses over email, I appreciate people
>>
>> don't like Suckerberger, but we do sooner or later have to face facts
>> pretty much no one under 30 these days uses email outside of work!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Mark
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com]
>>
>> On Behalf Of Michael Gilmer via Meteorite-list
>> Sent: 15 June 2020 14:26
>> To: Roberto Vargas
>> Cc: bigjohnshea at mail.com; Adam Hupe; metlist
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos
>>
>> HI Roberto,
>>
>> I love ya man, but I gotta tear this post apart. LOL.
>>
>> "Thankfully, we all have the freedom to choose where to post and engage
>> with
>>> the community."
>>
>> If Zuck had his way, we wouldn't have this freedom.
>>
>> " I use Facebook. Facebook has features that email will never have
>>> (video, live feeds, pictures, etc)."
>>
>> FB invented none of those things and does not have a monopoly (yet) on
>> any of them. There are plenty of other apps and venues that offer live
>> video, photos, etc. One can easily upload photos to a cloud account or
>> website and link to them on this List. One can easily host a live feed
>> on numerous streaming platforms and link to them here. That is how it
>> used to be done, before FB came along and sucked all the oxygen out of
>> the room.
>>
>> For example, people would upload their Tucson or Ensisheim pics to
>> Photobucket, Flickr, or their website and then link them here. It just
>> involves a couple of extra clicks to bypass FB entirely for this
>> functionality.
>>
>> '"I kind of cI kind of concur with the sentiment that this email list
>> is dead/dying. I
>>> love the daily MPoD vial email, but aside from that, this vehicle for
>>> sharing and engaging with others is antiquated and obsolete.oncur with
>>> the sentiment that this email list is dead/dying. I
>>> love the daily MPoD vial email, but aside from that, this vehicle for
>>> sharing and engaging with others is antiquated and obsolete."
>>
>> Over the years, I have seen this list wax and wane with activity. I
>> hope it will recover from this recent dry spell. I would argue that
>> this list is not obsolete, just suffering from a case of widespread
>> psychosis that somehow Zuckerberg's playground is better than the
>> medium itself that created it.
>>
>> "However, I am grateful that it is still available for those of us who
>> cannot
>>> or will not change with the times. "
>>
>> If the times are changing to an online world where Facebook, Amazon,
>> and Google control everything, then count me out. I'll fly my Luddite
>> flag proudly.
>>
>> " I believe those members have valuable
>>> insight into meteorites and their history and I would sad to lose what
>>> could
>>> be gained from them because they cannot or choose not to grasp how to
>>> use
>>> Facebook or other social media platforms."
>>
>> Indeed, it would be sad. And that is exactly what FB and Zuck are
>> trying to do - put venues like this out of business and gobble up
>> their audiences. Oh, I grasp FB and how to use it. And I have an
>> active presence on some non-Facebook platforms. My apparent beef is
>> not with social media itself, it is with Facebook and it's policies.
>> Ello and Mastodon are better than FB all day long and twice on
>> sundays.
>>
>> "At the end of the day, some will move to Facebook and join the rest of
>> us,
>>> while others will stay here (until the number of people that are left
>>> here
>>> is so small that it is really just an archive). "
>>
>> I was the rest of us. When I first joined FB in early 2009, there was
>> exactly one large-ish meteorite group and just one or two other
>> dealers actively selling in other groups outside that one. We were
>> pretty lonely for a while and I was one of those people (like you)
>> singing the praises of social media and Facebook. Then everybody
>> started coming to FB and the List started getting quieter and quieter.
>> And FB started getting crazier and crazier, and then the algorithms
>> kicked in, and then Zuck took off his mask and showed his true colors.
>> You wanna roll with that guy, despite knowing what he's about?
>>
>> Well, as long as Art keeps the lights turned on (so to speak), I am
>> going to try to help keep this List going. All of the content I used
>> to post on FB will now go here - new fall reports, met bull updates,
>> research links, articles, original essays, *links* to photos, etc.
>>
>> Art > Zuckerberg.
>>
>> Met-List > Facebook.
>>
>> No matter what ends up happening, the above two statements will always
>> remain true, even if FB gobbles up the online world and this list
>> becomes the Ozymandias of meteorite discussion.
>>
>> Best regards and stay safe!
>>
>> MikeG
>>
>>
>> On 6/14/20, Roberto Vargas via Meteorite-list
>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> Thankfully, we all have the freedom to choose where to post and engage
>>> with
>>> the community. In my opinion, email is best used for private messages
>>> between members, but not really a great medium for forum-like content.
>>> As
>>> such, I use Facebook. Facebook has features that email will never have
>>> (video, live feeds, pictures, etc).
>>> I kind of concur with the sentiment that this email list is dead/dying.
>>> I
>>> love the daily MPoD vial email, but aside from that, this vehicle for
>>> sharing and engaging with others is antiquated and obsolete.
>>> However, I am grateful that it is still available for those of us who
>>> cannot
>>> or will not change with the times. I believe those members have valuable
>>> insight into meteorites and their history and I would sad to lose what
>>> could
>>> be gained from them because they cannot or choose not to grasp how to
>>> use
>>> Facebook or other social media platforms.
>>> At the end of the day, some will move to Facebook and join the rest of
>>> us,
>>> while others will stay here (until the number of people that are left
>>> here
>>> is so small that it is really just an archive). Just my personal
>>> opinion.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Roberto V
>>>
>>> Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Meteorite-list <meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com> on
>>> behalf
>>> of Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 6:18:42 PM
>>> To: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at centurylink.net>; metlist
>>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos
>>>
>>> Everything we do on the internet (including your last email) is being
>>> spied
>>> on. No reason at all to bother worrying about facebook... LOL
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/14/20 at 1:56 PM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list wrote:
>>>
>>>> Zuckerberg doesn't even use his own services and makes six million
>>>> dollars
>>>> a day gathering personal information on others.
>>>>
>>>> I have never supported his crap and never will.
>>>>
>>>> I leave it to my lovely wife who uses this service despite the pitfalls
>>>> and is very careful about everything she posts not wanting to ruin her
>>>> social profile.
>>>>
>>>> Now back to removing a camera and microphone hidden in my brand new
>>>> flat-screen even though doing so violates the warranty. I do not want
>>>> some idiot watching me while I am watching NASCAR.
>>>>
>>>> Adam
>>>>
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