[meteorite-list] greenland meteor strike
From: MexicoDoug <mexicodoug_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 19:23:53 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <504073894.9359083.1553196233414_at_mail.yahoo.com> Thanks Bob, The BBC article was the only sane article in the bunch. Other UK sources were as crazy as our cable news broadcasters. Reporting was crazy as both CNN and Foxnews were such a jumbled mess that any normal person could not follow since the videos accompanying the story top center were old videos with a new story text below -- and one would never know, and more likely think the videos wer ethe new story. CNN may have just followed Foxnews (or Fox copied them) in that the energy CNN originally quoted for the new event, incorrectly quoted the prior event energy, so CNN was flat wrong. MSNBC appears to have gotten the story right, but sensationalized it so badly that it appeared it was the Chelyabinsk explosion with their old video which, like Foxnews, would easily be confused with the actual new event, complete with people running and screaming. *SMH* I was curious about Ron because he inadvertently started the ball rolling on the Greenland converted Thule/nuclear war event, and last time I checked his Twitter it was suspended, which seemed really odd, unless he got in trouble for just having a personal account with his JPL credentials unexpectedly pulling JPL into the mix of "experts" that were sources for the latest Chicken Little story! "A fireball was detected over Greenland on July 25, 2018 by US Government sensors at an altitude of 43.3 km. The energy from the explosion is estimated to be 2.1 kilotons. pic.twitter.com/EePuk14Pqd" ? Rocket Ron (_at_RonBaalke) July 31, 2018 So the media then ran with him as a spokesman of sorts from JPL's Solar Dynamics Laboratory, after Hans Kristensen, is the Director of Nuclear Information at the Federation of American Scientists replied to it setting the stage for the feeding frenzy. For example, from https://theoutline.com/post/5708/what-if-that-meteor-was-aliens?zd=1&zi=zocrn74m "The news of the explosion appears to have originated from Ron Baalke of NASA?s Jet Propulsion Laboratory (see the first of the two tweets above), and eventually made its way to a scientist whose handle is _at_nukestrat (see the second tweet), who pretty strongly implied that a meteor exploding near an Air Force base almost plunged us into nuclear war. @nukestrat, aka Hans Kristensen, is the Director of Nuclear Information at the Federation of American Scientists, so it makes sense that he would offer nuke-related commentary about whichever news story, pretty much whenever. But it seems as if his tweet began a weird feedback loop in which news outlets kept wondering why the Air Force didn?t acknowledge the explosion in the first place, giving the overall impression that something super fishy was going on. This is how conspiracy theories start in 2018, I guess ? with commentary that quickly spirals into context collapse." Best Regards, Doug -----Original Message----- From: Robert Verish <bolidechaser at yahoo.com> To: MexicoDoug <mexicodoug at aol.com>; cetuspa at shaw.ca <cetuspa at shaw.ca>; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 19, 2019 11:35 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] greenland meteor strike Hello Doug, Just to be clear, I was?replying in regards?to Paul Gessler's post and his title "greenland meteor strike", making it clear that the articles he referenced were about the Bering Sea meteor in December and not about the Greenland Meteor in July, (even though the Fox "News" used an old,?meteor video?involving the military base near Greenland in July).? Contrary to the description accompanying that older?FOX video, the US Air Force were the first to notify NASA about the December fireball over the Bering Sea. I just figured that Paul's post (and title) and the reference to?BOTH the BBC?and Fox "News" articles?(and their stark differences) were his Canadian-polite way of rubbing?our collective?US?noses in our own "do-do" that is now?US internet "journalism". With best regards, Bob V. P.S. - I must admit that I have no knowledge of Ron Baalke's status at JPL. On Tuesday, March 19, 2019 1:00 PM, MexicoDoug via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote: I saw the the same sensationalized story written up as a CNN report today: "A meteor exploded in the Earth's atmosphere with 10 times the energy of the Hiroshima atomic bomb", and CNN's article has buildings shaking and glass breaking on the autoplay video on top of the page (from Chelyabinsk). https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/18/us/meteor-blast-fireball-explosion-nasa-space-trnd/index.html and they even screwed up the size of the explosion (since been revised in the story, ironic since the title was about the energy that then needed correction)! MSNBC did a slightly longer sensational version, which was interesting for a casual reader, " Meteor blast over Russia's Bering Sea packed 10 times the power of Hiroshima bomb" https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/techandscience/meteor-blast-over-russia-s-bering-sea-packed-10-times-the-power-of-hiroshima-bomb/ar-BBUWcVc To be fair, the BBC was a source of the report for all three of the cable "news" networks, where the unifying thread is only US cable news "journalism" which we all know is entertaining. Wonder what the discussion groups in say India, thing about our news. Also, wonder how "Rocket Man" Ron Baalke a former active list member at JPL, who is missed, got suspended and if it was related to setting off the sensational narrative on the Greenland defense base last year? Bob? Cheers, Doug -----Original Message----- From: Robert Verish via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> To: Paul Gessler <cetuspa at shaw.ca>; Paul Gessler via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>; meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Mon, Mar 18, 2019 2:33 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] greenland meteor strike Regarding the Bering Sea meteor strike, the difference between the BBC reporting, versus the Fox"News" story, is the difference between a factual accounting, and another example of? anxiety-inducing "fake news".? https://www.hou.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2019/Bob V.? Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ? On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 3:07 AM, Paul Gessler via Meteorite-list<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:? Apparently a large event has been detected in Greenland approximating the energy of Chelyabinsk. https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-47607696 https://www.foxnews.com/science/us-detects-meteor-explosion-10-times-the-energy-as-atomic-bomb-report paul gessler --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ______________________________________________ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ? ______________________________________________ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ______________________________________________ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-listReceived on Thu 21 Mar 2019 03:23:53 PM PDT |
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