[meteorite-list] BLM Public Land

From: Jim Wooddell <jimwooddell_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 09:05:07 -0700
Message-ID: <5a54e832.94cfca0a.28f76.eef0_at_mx.google.com>

What date are you referring to in regards to 43 CFR 8365.1-5???

GPO has the 2001 version and there is not one mention of meteorites nor any of the wording below.
Can you reference a link to the CFR in question?

My Ref:
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-2001-title43-vol2/pdf/CFR-2001-title43-vol2-sec8365-1-5.pdf

Jim

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From: Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list
Sent: Tuesday, January 9, 2018 8:41 AM
To: metlist
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM Public Land

43 CFR 8365.1-5

Collection of meteorites is limited to certain public lands. Public
lands closed to casual collection include: developed recreation sites,
certain units of the National Landscape Conservation System, areas
excluded from casual collection in a Land Use Plan such as an Area of
Critical Environmental Concern (ACEC) or a wilderness area, and areas
closed by supplemental regulations;

Individuals are limited to collecting what can be easily hand-carried,
up to a maximum of ten pounds of meteorites per individual, per year;
Only surface collection of meteorites using non-motorized and
non-mechanical equipment is allowed (metal detectors may be used); and

Casually-collected meteorites are for personal use only, and may not be
bartered or sold for commercial purposes.



On 1/9/2018 4:50 AM, Jim Wooddell wrote:
> What law?? Can you please reference the CFR?s?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Jim Wooddell
>
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> *From: *Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list
> <mailto:meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> *Sent: *Monday, January 8, 2018 5:23 PM
> *To: *Raremeteorites <mailto:raremeteorites at centurylink.net>
> *Cc: *metlist <mailto:meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [meteorite-list] BLM Public Land
>
> I haven't hunted meteorites - other than the occasional fall or probable
> fall - in many years and no I never had any trouble with any government
> or state agency relating to meteorites or anything else.
>
> On Jan 8, 2018 2:58 PM, "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list"
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> <mailto:meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Ruben and List,
>
> Ruben, didn't you have problems with the BLM?
>
> I was just trying to save some dealers from grief.? I do not agree
> with the new laws, that were incorporated after much press about the
> monetary value of meteorites aired a few years back, but still abide
> by them.
>
> Anybody dealing meteorites found on public land is at serious risk
> of prosecution since they are making themselves low-hanging fruit
> for competitors and agents alike.? It only takes one phone call.
> Not only that, dealers who break the law by selling these finds,
> jeopardize the collection of meteorites on public lands for the rest
> of us.? Dealers breaking the law can be used as examples for even
> stricter laws forbidding the hunting of meteorites altogether.
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>
>
> On 1/8/2018 1:03 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list wrote:
>
> This just in, Adam has finally commented on everything,
> including Ads!
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 12:54 PM, Larry Atkins via Meteorite-list
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> <mailto:meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the heads up, but really...
>
> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
>
> ________________________________
> On Sunday, January 7, 2018 Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> <mailto:meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>> wrote:
> I do not normally comment on ads but sellers should keep in
> mind that
> selling meteorites found on public lands in the U.S. is
> against federal law.
> I do not want to see anybody get into trouble because, as
> some List Members
> have found out the hard way, the BLM does monitor meteorite
> sales,
> especially eBay. Meteorites may be casually collected, i.e.,
> for free and
> without a permit, under FLPMA However,in accordance with the
> BLM's
> regulations at 43 CFR 8365.1-5 collection is limited to
> certain public
> lands, (2) only specimens up to ten pounds may be collected
> per person per
> year, and (3) only surface collection with the use of
> non-motorized and
> non-Mechanical equipment is allowed; metal detectors are
> okay. However,
> specimens that are casually collected are for personal use
> only, and may not
> be bartered or sold for commercial purposes. Reference:
> https://www.blm.gov/sites/blm.gov/files/uploads/IM2012-182_att1.pdf
> Happy
> hunting,
> On 1/7/2018 8:56 AM, Larry Atkins via Meteorite-list wrote:
> > > List, > > I
> have 32 auctions running right now with some ending in about
> 24 hours. Most
> started at .99 with no reserve and some still have no bids.
> There are a few
> items rarely offered, like Osceola, the witnessed fall from
> Florida. Or NWA
> 11107 a rare eucrite melt. Right now there is a 2.8 gram end
> cut with only 2
> bids, $2.51 at the moment. > > Some other highlights would
> be the rarely
> offered Arizona find officially recognized as Bullhead City.
> Another rarely
> offered Arizona meteorite, the witnessed fall called Indian
> Butte, aka
> Stanfield. I have a low TKW Howardite that is gorgeous, NWA
> 11184. It's a
> 2.71 gram full slice that is currently at $13.00. > > Don't
> miss the
> extraordinary Anda tektites. The first 2 I put up sold
> quick, there are 2
> more up with very reasonable buy it now prices and a quick
> search on the
> internet will demonstrate the rarity, these things are
> practically
> unobtainable. > > Others listed are: > Holbrook frag's from
> my big find in
> 2007. > A 3.2 kg Gold Basin from the Nevada side. > NWA 6581
> an LL6. > NWA
> 10140 Lunar 1 of only 2 anorthositic troctolite. >
> unclassified NWA type3
> slices. > NWA 8663 A complete crusted eucrite stone with no
> bids and no
> reserve! > > There are others as well, take a minute and
> check them out if
> interested. > > Thank you. > > > >
> https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=0&_udlo=&_udhi=&_ftrt=901&_ftrv=1&_sabdlo=&_sabdhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=15&_stpos=48438-9655&_sargn=-1%26saslc%3D1&_salic=1&_fss=1&_fsradio=%26LH_SpecificSeller%3D1&_saslop=1&_sasl=alienrockfarm&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=200
>
> Sincerely, > Larry Atkins > > > >
> www.CosmicConnectionMeteorites.com
> <http://www.CosmicConnectionMeteorites.com> >
>
> IMCA # 1941 > > Ebay alienrockfarm > > >
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