[meteorite-list] U.S to Withdraw From UNESCO

From: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 17:22:07 -0700
Message-ID: <69c5e155-78f6-d60c-afd0-3ce43c0d5f33_at_centurylink.net>

It is obvious to most that making people aware of UNESCO and what
effects it may have on our avocation is important, at least to those who
think long-term.

I was first made aware of UNESCOs influence on treasure hunting in the
1980s. The late and Great, Richard Norton first pointed out to me what
influence the Douglass Schmitt paper that ties meteorites to UNESCO and
ownership laws had on meteorite hunters and collectors.

I am just spreading the knowledge. You cannot protect yourself against
things you know nothing about thus the update. Some long-term thinkers
are probably relieved by the News Article while others simply do not care.

I do see how stupid this is getting to use your terms. If disbursing
information is not helpful in your opinion, then it is within your 1st
amendment rights to express this.

For me, knowledge and accurate information are key,

Adam




On 10/12/2017 4:46 PM, John Lutzon wrote:
>
>
>
> And, How are You protecting meteorite collecting?
> To protect is to do something--not post News articles.
> What I got from this post is -- something Of Yours
> was lost and lazy diggers did bad -- ok, we all got it....
>
> So, what is your point--other than pointing out that things
> don't always go well.
>
> Maybe you would like to talk about how ancient cultures
> desercrated iron meteorites by making tools? Maybe you
> could sue them.
>
> Do you see how stupid this is getting.
>
> Adam-please
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> To: "metlist" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2017 6:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] U.S to Withdraw From UNESCO
>
>
> I am trying to protect the avocation of meteorite collecting. I saw my
> last hobby, "Treasure Hunting" which I was engaged in since 1975
> completely destroyed by those that thought they were above the fray.
> The lack of respect for laws and rules resulted in most lands being
> taken off limits. Lazy hunters who left holes behind where kids could
> break their ankles was the start of the end for amateur treasure hunters
> who left land in better condition then when the entered by removing trash.
>
> Meteorite hunting and collecting is being threatened every day.
>
> UNESCO is just one of many examples,
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>
>
> On 10/12/2017 2:57 PM, John Lutzon wrote:
>>
>> So much wasted intellect.
>> My opinion is you could be doing/helping so many people in the
>> meteoritic community but it "seems" you feel persecuted because
>> of opinions towards you on the Internet -- this is The World WIDE WEB.
>> Last I checked--it is not a prosecutable crime to express your Opinion
>> whether on the internet or not.
>>
>> However, there is the "chilling effect law" which is prosecutable.
>> IE: "where speech or conduct is supressed by fear of penalization".
>>
>> "{Remember what you say is permanently recorded and can be used
>> against you in a court of law.}" ["Adam Hupe"]. Bad road to go down.
>>
>> I don't care for what people say about me and good god what they may
>> think of me--hell, I keep going and I don't have 1/10 of your expertise.
>>
>> As you may have surmised, I don't care for threatening stupid talk.
>>
>> All I Really want are discussions about METEORITES.................
>> Not personal BS.
>>
>> Respect, John
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> To: "metlist" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2017 4:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] U.S to Withdraw From UNESCO
>>
>>
>> Here is the infamous Douglass Schmitt paper that tied UNESCO to
>> meteorites in PDF format:
>>
>> http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1945-5100.2002.tb00897.x/pdf
>>
>> By the way, some people do not think that I see what is posted in
>> Facebook. Even though I do not subscribe to Facebook, I record anything
>> that pertains to me for future reference. Remember what you say is
>> permanently recorded and can be used against you in a court of law.
>>
>> It seems some dealers do not like what I have to say about piggy backers
>> and tailgaters. I even had an Original Dealer (OD) violate a
>> long-standing agreement we had by mentioning my name. Note only this,
>> there are a few newbie dealers who feel the need to badmouth me and have
>> reduced themselves to name calling. It is interesting that dealers that
>> have something to hide are usually the cowards to post in other forums
>> not realizing that it upsets the majority of collectors and honest
>> dealers who follow the rules and demand provenance.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
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