[meteorite-list] Meteorites - Oriented vs. Orientated: What’s the Difference?

From: MexicoDoug <mexicodoug_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 00:01:07 -0400
Message-ID: <1548439e6c3-7c34-2d62_at_webprd-m92.mail.aol.com>

"I only see where the use is as a verb. In this meteoritic context it is an adjective. While 'orientated' may be correct, the historic and accepted use has always been 'oriented'.Orientated sounds wrong and doesn't flow off my tongue easily.Bob"

Bob, There is no required use. It is a matter of personal preference, and oriented is simply far more common than orientated. If someone has an orientated stone you like, believe me on this one, oriented by any other name is as sweet.

For example,
Here's an early Martian, classified at NAU, NWA 2800
www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=33288
"orientated elongated crystals"

A historian and scientist describe the historical, first witnessed fall in the New World, Weston:
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=24249
"strewnfield orientated"

the Mount Margaret (Australia) meteorite, amazing, stunning meteorite
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=16781
"single, flight orientated stone"

The original post was false dichotomy. Some people get annoyed over the silliest things. And some respond to them with equally silly things when convalescing in bed ;-) Please take a listen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2oEmPP5dTM#t=0m33s
(It's the original "to-may-to, to-mah-to" song)

Best wishes,
Doug
  

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From: drtanuki via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
To: Bob Holmes <bobholmes at cox.net>; Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites - Oriented vs. Orientated: What?s the Difference?

List, Sorry the message was not sent in plain text and the link to the - ADJ. form was dropped. Doug, I concur with you diatribe. Brit. English and American usage differ and both forms are correct. I prefer oriented as it as Bob says and I think Farmer would agree just sounds less awkward. Missing Link-http://grammarist.com/usage/orientate/Dirk Ross...Tokyo The Latest Worldwide Meteor/Meteorite News http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/________________________________From: Bob Holmes <bobholmes at cox.net>To: MexicoDoug via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> Cc: "drtanuki at yahoo.com" <drtanuki at yahoo.com>Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 6:25 AMSubject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites - Oriented vs. Orientated: What?s the Difference?I only see where the use is as a verb. In this meteoritic context it is an adjective. While 'orientated' may be correct, the historic and accepted use has always been 'oriented'.Orientated sounds wrong and doesn't flow off my tongue easily.Bob------ Origi
nal message------From: MexicoDoug via Meteorite-list Date: Thu, May 5, 2016 11:42 AMTo: drtanuki at yahoo.com;meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com;Cc: Subject:Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites - Oriented vs. Orientated: What?s the Difference?"oriented-vs-orientated-differencePerhaps oriented?! or not?"Dirk, perhaps so, if "three men make a tiger".There are serious logical flaws lacing the arguments and opinions presented in your link. There's an argument/appeal to a non-existent authority - the author is nobody remarkable. The worst is an appeal to numbers ("It's usage is more common so it is right"). Many words are less common, yet thankfully exist and can be used even though shorter ones are workable substitutes. Here's another grammar-assisting website:"But, once again, orientate is an accepted variant of orient and is not wrong."ref: http://grammarist.com/usage/orientate/Nowjust for fun, let's use an appeal to numbers to decide which site is more reliable.grammarist (my site. look at the trend and my
 fancy graph):http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/grammarist.com+andthen writingexplained.org(your site. fancy graph and numbers again)http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/writingexplained.org+SoI would conclude with fancy graphs and statistics (two above links) that because the link your site just popped out of nowhere in March 2016 and is in 73,500th place worldwide at this writing, and the site I linked to is in 9,300th place worldwide, and around for years and continually getting more popular in the rankings --for now perhaps 10x more consulted-- that we should avoid using your site as a reference. "three men make a tiger"?Both words are grammatically correct in my book and it comes down to style which is strictly a personal decision of whoever is writing. IMO, Everyone understands them ... There is no shame in word choice, and most people won't mind the extra t and a here and there.Kindest wishesDoug-----Original Message-----From: drtanuki via Meteorite-list To: Meteorite Mailing List Sent: Thu, May 5, 2016 9:48
amSubject: [meteorite-list] Meteorites - Oriented vs. Orientated: What?s the Difference?List, Here you go-http://writingexplained.org/oriented-vs-orientated-difference Perhapsoriented?! or not?as an adjective-Dirk Ross...Tokyo The Latest Worldwide Meteor/Meteorite News http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/______________________________________________Visitour Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentraland the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.comMeteorite-list mailinglistMeteorite-list at meteoritecentral.comhttps://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list______________________________________________Visitour Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentraland the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.comMeteorite-list mailinglistMeteorite-list at meteoritecentral.comhttps://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list______________________________________________Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at
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