[meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black

From: Count Deiro <countdeiro_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 15:41:25 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
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No apologies necessary, John. It had to be said by someone. Too often the List gets hijacked by self-righteous, self centered, self inportant, supercillious gas bags.

Count Deiro
IMCA 3536

You have stated what many Listees agree with.

-----Original Message-----
>From: John Lutzon via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>Sent: Jun 20, 2016 2:47 PM
>To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black
>
>List,
>My apologies first....
>
>What the Hell am I missing here?? Someone set me straight
>--or better yet Don't respond. 3 days--Enough already !
>
>This thread is bordering on stupidity and/or insulting to
>this List.
>
>Move On......
>
>John
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>
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
>To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 2:54 PM
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black
>
>
>Mondegreens
>
>Here is a perfect example:
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>http://www.amiright.com/misheard/song/orangecrush.shtml
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: Dennis Miller via Meteorite-list
>To: Dark Matter
>Cc: Meteorite List ; Bigjohn Shea
>Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 7:41 PM
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black
>
>
>I want what you guys are taking! "Pots with paint brushes calling kettles names!
>With reference to the Hupe brothers, if one was a different color, it might ease
>some of the confusion as to who is who! You so funny!
>
>Sent from my iPad
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>On Jun 19, 2016, at 7:57 PM, Dark Matter via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
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>Looks like we got the band back together on this one.
>
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>Cheers,
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>Martin
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>On Sunday, June 19, 2016, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
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>This has strayed waaaaaaaay off the topic of meteorites...
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>On 6/19/16 at 6:38 PM, MexicoDoug via Meteorite-list wrote:
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>> Captain Blood wrote:
>>
>> "Hi all, Teaching Anthropology, which includes linguistics, I began over
>> 30 years ago to collect the origins of phrases.
>> The original phrase in this instance is
>> "Pot calling the kettle black."
>>
>> =====================================
>> You are a cunning anthropologist Michael, but I disagree. The context is not at all my affair, so I only comment on the use of
>> Adam's original aphorism or proverb he intended. Though there are even older proverbs capturing his thought, I think he might
>> have preferred to use the Sufi proverb from the middle ages, hundreds of years before the pot/kettle abomination existed:
>>
>> "Many of the faults you see in others, dear reader,
>> are your own nature reflected in them." (Rumi ca. AD 1250)
>>
>> The pot and kettle saying is so butchered from its origin and barely resembles it, and yours is not the original. It is fair game
>> to use as he did, since there is no authority on such idioms and the interpretation is supported, whether it sounds good to
>> everyone's ear or only to some. I have traced the origin of the pot/kettle proverb undisputedly to the ancient Greek, "Snake and
>> the Crab" and it intended hypocrisy, whereas the reflection/coloring suggests that the accused reserves the right to be pure and
>> without fault, a different concept. Pot calling the kettle black is a late-comer, and already a poor corruption of a 3000 year
>> old proverb that diminishes the original, so that is why I feel the writer can appropriate it as they feel convenient and not be
>> beholden to any higher authority on its use due to the selection of an arbitrary point in time, and Adam has referenced his with
>> a less common modern variant. English is always evolving, and this is a living example of how it ha
> pp
>> ens.
>>
>> Kindest wishes
>> Doug
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Michael Blood via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> To: Paul Gessler <cetuspa at shaw.ca>; Met. Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at centurylink.net>; Meteorite List
>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> Sent: Sat, Jun 18, 2016 7:56 pm
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black
>>
>> Hi all,
>> Teaching Anthropology, which includes linguistics, I began over
>> 30 years ago to collect the origins of phrases.
>> The original phrase in this instance is
>> "Pot calling the kettle black."
>> Michael Blood
>>
>>
>> On 6/16/16 8:11 PM, "Meteorite List" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Pot Coloring The Kettle Black
>>
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