[meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black

From: Dark Matter <freequarks_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 19:03:49 -0600
Message-ID: <CAFDhuwmXgw9Gmvh-vprohHS8a0dhD1r9nR+pS0dRgg-mwm=adA_at_mail.gmail.com>

Looks like we got the band back together on this one.

Cheers,

Martin



On Sunday, June 19, 2016, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> This has strayed waaaaaaaay off the topic of meteorites...
>
>
>
> Sent using the mail.com mail app
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> On 6/19/16 at 6:38 PM, MexicoDoug via Meteorite-list wrote:
>
> > Captain Blood wrote:
> >
> > "Hi all, Teaching Anthropology, which includes linguistics, I began over
> > 30 years ago to collect the origins of phrases.
> > The original phrase in this instance is
> > "Pot calling the kettle black."
> >
> > =====================================
> > You are a cunning anthropologist Michael, but I disagree. The context is
> not at all my affair, so I only comment on the use of Adam's original
> aphorism or proverb he intended. Though there are even older proverbs
> capturing his thought, I think he might have preferred to use the Sufi
> proverb from the middle ages, hundreds of years before the pot/kettle
> abomination existed:
> >
> > "Many of the faults you see in others, dear reader,
> > are your own nature reflected in them." (Rumi ca. AD 1250)
> >
> > The pot and kettle saying is so butchered from its origin and barely
> resembles it, and yours is not the original. It is fair game to use as he
> did, since there is no authority on such idioms and the interpretation is
> supported, whether it sounds good to everyone's ear or only to some. I have
> traced the origin of the pot/kettle proverb undisputedly to the ancient
> Greek, "Snake and the Crab" and it intended hypocrisy, whereas the
> reflection/coloring suggests that the accused reserves the right to be pure
> and without fault, a different concept. Pot calling the kettle black is a
> late-comer, and already a poor corruption of a 3000 year old proverb that
> diminishes the original, so that is why I feel the writer can appropriate
> it as they feel convenient and not be beholden to any higher authority on
> its use due to the selection of an arbitrary point in time, and Adam has
> referenced his with a less common modern variant. English is always
> evolving, and this is a living example of how it ha
> pp
> > ens.
> >
> > Kindest wishes
> > Doug
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Blood via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com <javascript:;>>
> > To: Paul Gessler <cetuspa at shaw.ca <javascript:;>>; Met. Adam Hupe <
> raremeteorites at centurylink.net <javascript:;>>; Meteorite List <
> meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com <javascript:;>>
> > Sent: Sat, Jun 18, 2016 7:56 pm
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black
> >
> > Hi all,
> > Teaching Anthropology, which includes linguistics, I began over
> > 30 years ago to collect the origins of phrases.
> > The original phrase in this instance is
> > "Pot calling the kettle black."
> > Michael Blood
> >
> >
> > On 6/16/16 8:11 PM, "Meteorite List" <
> meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com <javascript:;>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Pot Coloring The Kettle Black
> >
> >
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