[meteorite-list] Natiional Forest Rules

From: Raremeteorites <raremeteorites_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 15:53:57 -0700
Message-ID: <C0D528D95F954A959FFFE19006550F4B_at_HPDESKTOP>

I think it is interesting how much regulations affect park usage.

I thought that I had stumbled onto a hidden treasure when observing a
beautiful park in Renton, Washington. It was rather large, had a beach on
Lake Washington, a dock, well-manicured landscaping and paved trails. I
could not figure out why nobody used it until I read signs everywhere
indicating, too numerous to count, regulations.

In the parking lot, there was a sign that read:
* No loitering
* Do not leave valuables in car
* High prowl area

As you were entering the park, from what I can recall, another very large
sign read:
* No alcohol
* No glass
* No littering
* No barbecues
* No music
* No bicycling
* No running on the sidewalks
* No ball or Frisbee throwing
* No horseplay
* Keep off of the grass
* No pets
* Park promptly closes at dusk

...and about a dozen more rules that I cannot recall at the moment

I made it to the bathrooms and a sign simply stated:
* Closed
* No loitering

An finally I reached the dock and a sign stated:
* No fishing
* No lifeguard on duty
* No swimming

After seeing how many rules and regulations that were posted everywhere that
told you what you could not do, I realized why nobody used the park and it
remained in pristine condition. This park is in the same city where it is
illegal to drive around the same block twice due to cruising ordinances and
a friend of mine got a ticket for his grass growing too long since his
lawnmower broke.

They may as well have put up a sign that said, "GO HOME, YOU ARE NOT WELCOME
HERE, NO FUN ALLOWED!" I guess if you like to sit still, not twitch a
finger and meditate, this park would be perfect.

This is one of many reasons I moved away from Washington State other than
the rainy weather. Too many regulations and high taxes! No such thing as
"freewill"

At least for the time being, here in Nevada, most people still smile and
wave at one another. It will not be long before regulations burden us here
as well since more and more are coming online everyday.

Adam






* No yelling

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Verish" <bolidechaser at yahoo.com>
To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>; "Raremeteorites"
<raremeteorites at centurylink.net>
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Natiional Forest Rules


> Adam is right about National Forest rules not permitting meteorite
> collecting. And,
> I'm not surprised that many of their forest service rangers are unaware of
> that fact and,
> more importantly, among the rangers that I have spoken with, most don't
> really know
> why it isn't permitted. It's weird, when I tell them the reason "why",
> they actually argue
> with me saying that I "must be wrong, because that reason is insane."
> Well, enough about that insanity.
>
> I just wanted to point that while Adam is right, that most dry-lakes are
> on public lands,
> not all are. There are many on other kinds of properties. And those on
> military bases
> are obviously out of the jurisdiction of the BLM. Rest assured that if
> they can't make
> any money off of the meteorite find, they could care less. So, if you
> have the rare opportunity
> to acquire a meteorite from a dry-lake located on a military base, you can
> forget about
> all this generalization about dry-lakes. None of the rules relating to
> public lands and the
> BLM applies to these other dry-lakes.
>
> Bob V.
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Fri, 6/3/16, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Natiional Forest Rules
> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Friday, June 3, 2016, 12:47 PM
>
> I had a List member comment that a forest service ranger told him it was
> ok
> to collect meteorites. I double-checked to see if the rules have changed
> and the answer seems to still be, NO. This also means that most
> meteorites
> found of dry lake beds are off-limits to be sold since most are on federal
> land which now has very limited use by the public due to so many new
> regulations.
>
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Received on Sat 04 Jun 2016 06:53:57 PM PDT