[meteorite-list] Another warning re sales to Italy

From: MexicoDoug <mexicodoug_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2016 01:32:11 -0400
Message-ID: <1561b63a9eb-235c-6c03_at_webprd-a84.mail.aol.com>

Michael,

How discouraging, as if doing what you love wasn't already a labor of love. Your customer appears to be a dedicated collector, exhibitor, lecturer, and dealer (involved with meteorites and as using them as raw materials for selling trinkets and watch dials, including to school children). You could double-check if it is not a miscommunication from your message exchange defining who was supposed to pay for what. The immediate problem was not Italy, as much as the expensive, secure shipping cost which you understood was to be paid by him as it sounds like he received the meteorite and you have a tracking receipt.

Or, next time you are in Rimini, stop by this hair salon and go collect if the friendly approach doesn't pan out. Maybe settle for a seafood risotto. I'd make an appointment first and bring a bottle of wine _at_ (+39)3485447938. He really doesn't seem like a scammer!

Kindest wishes
Doug



-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
To: Michael Blood <mlblood at cox.net>; Meteorite Mailing List <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Sat, Jul 23, 2016 9:37 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another warning re sales to Italy

Why do people ignore warnings? Italy is notorious for
scams and stolen packages.

Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 23, 2016, at 6:36 PM, Michael Blood via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> You all may recall that several years ago multiple
> Dealers warned against sales to Italy. It seams at
> Least one buyer was claiming not to have received
> Shipments that were verified, not to have received
> Money that was sent him, etc.
>
> Unfortunately, I failed to head warnings about
> Shipping to Italy. A different Italian contacted me (Or
> At least one using a different name and email) and
> I explained even Registered Mail seems to fail to
> guarantee delivery in Italy but I somehow allowed
> him to talk me into a Fed Ex shipment of a specimen.
> I agreed, providing he send $50 shipping and agree
> to pay any additional amount Fed Ex might charge.
>
> Perhaps it is the same fellow from several years ago
> Using a different name (he was so good at that Art could
> Not keep him off the list because he would just join again
> Using a different name and email). So, beware of:
>
> "Davide Urbinati" <urbinati.davide at gmail.com>
>
>
> Even though I scanned the receipt and sent it to him
> He refused to pay the $59.79 Fed Ex charged me. So, I am
> Out that $.
>
> Believe me, I will never ship to Italy again.
>
> Better luck to all of you,
> Michael Blood
>
>
>
>
>
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