[meteorite-list] Another Land Grab In Nevada And Utah!

From: Raremeteorites <raremeteorites_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 14:51:36 -0800
Message-ID: <2A8D084A329C44B2B520E91A22F18F8A_at_HPDESKTOP>

What are American's supposed to eat, tofu? Most of the public land here in
the southwest is open range and ranchers pay a cattle head tax in order to
graze on it. If you want to keep cattle out, simply install a fence. As
far as public drinking water goes, cattle should never be able to enter a
reservoir used for drinking water. California should spend some of the
cattle head tax on fences instead of non-native mantis shrimp and minnow
studies.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Anne Black" <impactika at aol.com>
To: <thetoprok at aol.com>; <fislerite at msn.com>
Cc: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>; <raremeteorites at centurylink.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another Land Grab In Nevada And Utah!


I agree with you Larry.
Those cows should never be allowed on Public Lands. They should be made to
stay on Private ranch lands.

Maybe we need a wall! ;-)


Anne M. Black
IMPACTIKA.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Atkins via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
To: fislerite <fislerite at msn.com>
Cc: meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>; raremeteorites
<raremeteorites at centurylink.net>
Sent: Thu, Dec 29, 2016 3:22 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another Land Grab In Nevada And Utah!

Ben, List, Ben says "The map of the Gold Butte National Monument that I saw
on line,went from the border of the Lake Mead Recreational Park on the west,
to the Arizona Border on the east and south, and almost to the thehighway
near Mesquite to the north."That encompasses the Nevada side of GB, game
over! I sure am glad I got in there when I did.I think the vast majority of
people are all for protecting archeological sites, dino bones and tracks,
etc. I sure am. However, I've always been a fan of the 'middle of the road'
when it comes to many things, it doesn't always have to be all or nothing.
Closing off that much land makes no sense at all and Adam hit the nail on
the head, there's such a thing as over regulation. And hey Mike, you don't
have to make all that land off limits to stop trailer parks, be serious
friend. I spent weeks and weeks in the Gold Butte area and saw nary a soul.
This place has built in protections.. it's remote! The few people I saw
didn't even get out of the car let alone pillage and plunder, and again,
like Adam said, if thieves have a mind to steal, they will, and with
impunity because nobody is there to report them anyway. I'm all for
protecting what needs protecting but some of this stuff is out of hand. If
laws are going to be passed like this there should be input from the people
that actually use the land and have an interest in it, and some common sense
should be applied. An example of nonsense rules, I can't collect pottery
chips or worked stone but it's perfectly legal and okay for the cattle to
pulverize it into oblivion. That makes no sense and leads to a lack of
confidence in the officials that make the policies. Or how about not being
able to swim in some of the reservoirs in California because it's a
protected water body, but look over there, it's a herd of 40 cows standing
chest deep dropping poop bombs into the drinking water! Someone needs to
explain the logic in these things if they think it's the right way to manage
the land.We all know that prohibiting the collection of meteorites on
federal land is a bad idea. Those meteorites will never be found by
scientists or "officials" and thus will be lost to science forever. How
about some compromise?Sincerely,Larry Atkins IMCA # 1941Ebay
alienrockfarm -----Original Message-----From: Ben Fisler via Meteorite-list
<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>To: Larry Atkins <thetoprok at aol.com>Cc:
meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>; raremeteorites
<raremeteorites at centurylink.net>Sent: Thu, Dec 29, 2016 2:57 pmSubject: Re:
[meteorite-list] Another Land Grab In Nevada And Utah!The map of the Gold
Butte National Monument that I saw on line,went from the border of the Lake
Mead Recreational Park on the west, to the Arizona Border on the east and
south, and almost to the thehighway near Mesquite to the north.
BenSent from my iPhone> On Dec 29, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Larry Atkins via
Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:> > Adam, List,>
> I've not seen the boundary lines for the Gold Butte closure but I think
it's safe to say a large portion of the Nevada side Gold Basin strewn field
is now off limits, how unfortunate.> > > Sincerely,> Larry Atkins> > IMCA #
1941> Ebay alienrockfarm> > > > -----Original Message-----> From:
Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>> To:
meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>> Sent: Thu, Dec 29,
2016 9:49 am> Subject: [meteorite-list] Another Land Grab In Nevada And
Utah!> > Another 1.65 million acres on top of the record setting 553 million
acres, > including the entire Mohave corridor, has taken out of action by
Obama with > no input from the public whatsoever.> >
http://mynews4.com/news/local/obama-names-gold-butte-nevada-monument-despite-opposition> >
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/12/29/obamas-historic-land-grab-553-million-acres-conservation/> >
This is what meteorite hunters and future generations will be greeted by:> >
http://themeteoritesite.com/adam/Jeep/ClosedNationilizedTrail.jpg> > Note
the logs blocking a once, well used trail! I wonder how many trees > have
to be cut down in order to "protect" an additional 1.65 million acres.> >
People who have never left urban areas should not make choices about land >
they have never seen!> > Adam> > >
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