[meteorite-list] Need Sutter's Mill please
From: Laurence Garvie <lgarvie_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 19:15:04 +0000 Message-ID: <4002C445-6F02-4673-9D77-F530ADB12DA1_at_asu.edu> Dear Meteorite collectors, I am in the process of working on the bulk mineralogy of Sutter?s Mill as determined by powder x-ray diffraction. I have run several samples now, including the pre-rain SM3, and found some interesting minerals. My big interest is in the clay mineralogy, the quantity and type in each sample I am arguing reflects degree of pre-terrestrial heating. I now have a relatively good dataset of samples (SM3,41,38,49,65,8,6,12,53), but would dearly like to run a few more. There seems to be some gaps in the data with regards to clay content and hence heating. I don?t know yet whether this gap reflects the fact that I have not looked at enough samples, or is real and is telling us that there are two groups of Sutter?s Mill - clay rich (mildly heated), and clay poor (heated to high temperature). So, I am looking for small pieces of samples for my research. Ideally, I am looking for donations of small fragments - 100 mg would be perfect, though I can still work on samples in the 20 mg range. If anyone has samples available, then please feel free to email me. Thanks Laurence -------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Laurence A.J. Garvie Chair, Nomenclature Committee The Meteoritical Society Curator Center for Meteorite Studies Research Professor School of Earth and Space Exploration Arizona State University email: lgarvie at asu.edu<mailto:lgarvie at asu.edu> ----------------------------------------------------------- On Apr 25, 2016, at 10:26 PM, meteorite-list-request at meteoritecentral.com<mailto:meteorite-list-request at meteoritecentral.com> wrote: Send Meteorite-list mailing list submissions to meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com<mailto:meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to meteorite-list-request at meteoritecentral.com You can reach the person managing the list at meteorite-list-owner at meteoritecentral.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Meteorite-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: WR Gallery Delay ? U.S. World Record Mars Meteorite Discovery (MexicoDoug) 2. Meteorite Picture of the Day (valparint at aol.com) 3. Dawn Spacecraft May Visit Third Asteroid After Ceres and Vesta (Ron Baalke) 4. Firefighters Think Maryland Brush Fire Started by Meteorite (Ron Baalke) 5. NASA Seeks Industry Ideas for an Advanced Mars Satellite (Ron Baalke) 6. Re: Group of Moroccans Found the Association for Meteorite Professionals in Erfoud, Morocco (Raremeteorites) 7. Time for another nonsense story from the media... (Tommy) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 02:29:33 -0400 From: MexicoDoug <mexicodoug at aol.com> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] WR Gallery Delay ? U.S. World Record Mars Meteorite Discovery Message-ID: <1544c1bd839-2804-6c33 at webprd-m14.mail.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 'Bikkurim L'HaShem Adonai Yeshua HaMashiach' (644.7g pile) Ba?al Zebub would be an easier nickname for that mass. Do you mean fusion crust or Krylon Fusion (R) paint? -----Original Message----- From: Ann Cain via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> To: meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Sat, Apr 23, 2016 6:46 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] WR Gallery Delay ? U.S. World Record Mars Meteorite Discovery Meteorite List, I would like to apologize for not having The Gallery of World Record Mars Meteorites, from the US World Record Mars Meteorite Discovery, ready and up for viewing for this Passover 4-23-16, as I said I would. Things have been very busy this school year. However, this summer I will finish. I now intend to have it ready on Rosh Hashanah 5777 AD/CE, (October 3-4, 2016), and I?m hoping a 3rd PR can be released at that time in addition. Rosh Hashanah 5777 AD/CE should be a good year of blessings, and I?m looking forward to a new U.S. administration. Shalom, Glyn Howard The Gallery of US World Record Mars Meteorite specimens: http://gfoundit-mars.com/GalleryOfImages.html The Evidence for GSA and GSB Mars Meteorites and Relevant Essays and Articles http://gfoundit-mars.com/TheEvidence.html The Evidence - G Found It - US World Record Mars Meteorite Discovery http://www.einpresswire.com/article/225047567/the-evidence-g-found-it-us-world-record-mars-meteorite-discovery G Found It - U.S. World Record Mars Meteorite Discovery http://www.gfoundit-mars.com/ G Found It ? U.S. World Record Mars Meteorite Discovery http://www.einpresswire.com/article/143477981/g-found-it-u-s-world-record-mars-meteorite-discovery Recall: Both my sister Ann Cain (who opened the email account) and I, Glyn Howard, use the same email account ? Ann Cain, Glyn Howard gfndit(at)hotmail.com ______________________________________________ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.comlist_at_meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 00:00:11 -0700 From: <valparint at aol.com> To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day Message-ID: <B40BD5F1C525459FA48975ACB9B235A4 at Seuthopolis> Content-Type: text/plain Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Canon City Contributed by: Anne Black http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=04/25/2016 ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 17:17:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Ron Baalke <baalke at zagami.jpl.nasa.gov> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com (Meteorite Mailing List) Subject: [meteorite-list] Dawn Spacecraft May Visit Third Asteroid After Ceres and Vesta Message-ID: <201604260017.u3Q0Hq4l010750 at zagami.jpl.nasa.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii https://www.newscientist.com/article/2085288-nasas-dawn-probe-may-visit-third-asteroid-after-ceres-and-vesta/ NASA's Dawn probe may visit third asteroid after Ceres and Vesta By Govert Schilling New Scientist April 20, 2016 Some spacecraft just can't sit still. After exploring asteroids Vesta and Ceres, NASA's Dawn probe may fly off to a third destination. Dawn was launched in September 2007, orbited Vesta for 14 months in 2011 and 2012, and then flew on to orbit Ceres in March 2015, where it remains today. It is the first ever spacecraft to visit two different asteroids, a hop-on, hop-off tour made possible thanks to Dawn's low-thrust ion drive, which uses electricity to spit out xenon ions rather than conventional rocket fuel. This summer, Dawn's Ceres mission will officially end. But earlier this week, principal investigator Chris Russell of the University of California at Los Angeles and his team sent a proposal to NASA for an extension. Secret destination Spacecraft at the end of their life are normally parked in an out-of-the-way orbit, or crash land on the body they have been studying. That's the plan for the Rosetta probe, which will touch down on comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko later this year, but that fate won't be possible for Dawn. "The spacecraft has not been sterilised, so we aren't allowed to touch down on the surface of Ceres," says Russell. Strict planetary protection rules forbid us sending Earth microbes to other worlds. "Instead, we want to go the other way, away from Ceres, to visit yet another target." Given the small amount of xenon fuel remaining, the list of potential destinations is probably not too long, but Russell is keeping it a secret for now. "As long as the mission extension has not been approved by NASA, I'm not going to tell you which asteroid we plan to visit," he says. "I hope a decision won't take months." ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 17:20:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Ron Baalke <baalke at zagami.jpl.nasa.gov> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com (Meteorite Mailing List) Subject: [meteorite-list] Firefighters Think Maryland Brush Fire Started by Meteorite Message-ID: <201604260020.u3Q0K24j011721 at zagami.jpl.nasa.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii http://wtop.com/prince-georges-county/2016/04/md-brush-fire-possibly-started-meteor/slide/2/ Firefighters think Md. brush fire could have been started by meteorite; NASA not sold By Rick Massimo April 25, 2016 Firefighters haven't confirmed the cause yet, but when they finally got the fire out, they found a crater with a rock at the bottom. WASHINGTON - A big brush fire in Bowie, Maryland, took several hours to put out, and while firefighters thought that might have been because it was started by a meteorite, scientists make a convincing case the cause was more earthly. The fire started Sunday evening between 5 p.m. and 6 p.m. in a wooded area near Scarlett Oaks Terrace, the Bowie Volunteer Fire Department said. Firefighters haven't confirmed the cause yet, but when they finally got the fire out, they found a crater with a rock at the bottom. They think flames from the rock ignited the trees and bushes in the area. They left the rock there. NASA, however, isn't buying it. Mike Kelley, a program scientist in NASA's Planetary Defense Coordination Office, tells WTOP that there's no way a meteorite caused the fire in Bowie on Sunday evening. Meteorites "on a small scale do not start fires," Kelley said. "They're not hot enough when they reach the ground." They heat up when they enter the atmosphere, but Kelley says that only the outer millimeter or so heats up. By the time a meteorite hits the ground, it's nowhere near hot enough to cause a fire. As for the crater, Kelley said it looks like a pit dug in the woods, or maybe an embankment, but it's not a meteorite impact crater, which he described as "something that looks like it would have popped out of the ground, like a splash." He added that even though there's a rock at the bottom of the hole, that's not particularly unusual. "Yes, there's a rock at the bottom, but if you dig down four feet to the left, will you see another rock?" But the bottom line is, a meteorite wouldn't cause a fire unless it was massive, Kelley said. The Tunguska event, a blast more powerful than the first atomic bomb and thought to have been started by a meteorite, didn't start a fire, though it knocked down an estimated 80,000 trees. The KT impactor, said to have led to the extinction of the dinosaurs, may have started a fire, Kelley said, but it measured miles across. "If something on that scale occurred in Maryland, we wouldn't be having this conversation," Kelley said. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 17:21:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Ron Baalke <baalke at zagami.jpl.nasa.gov> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com (Meteorite Mailing List) Subject: [meteorite-list] NASA Seeks Industry Ideas for an Advanced Mars Satellite Message-ID: <201604260021.u3Q0LNAQ012770 at zagami.jpl.nasa.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii April 21, 2016 RELEASE 16-046 NASA Seeks Industry Ideas for an Advanced Mars Satellite NASA is soliciting ideas from U.S. industry for designs of a Mars orbiter for potential launch in the 2020s. The satellite would provide advanced communications and imaging, as well as robotic science exploration, in support of NASA's Journey to Mars. The orbiter would substantially increase bandwidth communications and maintain high-resolution imaging capability. It also may use experimental cutting-edge technologies, such as high-power solar electric propulsion or an optical communications package, which could greatly improve transmission speed and capacity over radio frequency systems. Under the direction of NASA's Mars Exploration Program, the agency's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in Pasadena, California, is conducting pre-formulation planning for this possible orbiter mission. Pre-formulation plans include the procurement of industry studies for a solar-powered orbiting spacecraft. This effort seeks to take advantage of industry capabilities to improve deep space, solar electric propulsion-enabled orbiters to accommodate scientific instruments, demonstrate capability for rendezvous and capture, and advance telecommunications capabilities. "Our success in exploring Mars, to unravel the mysteries of the Red Planet, depends on having high bandwidth communication with Earth and overhead imaging," said John Grunsfeld, astronaut and associate administrator of NASA's Science Mission Directorate in Washington. "Currently, we depend on our orbiting science missions to perform dual service in making measurements and acting as communication relays, but we can't depend on them to last forever. This new orbiter will use cutting-edge technology to revitalize our ability to continue to explore Mars and support transformative science, including a potential sample return mission in the future." JPL plans to award concept study subcontracts of $400,000 per subcontract in June. The concept studies for the spacecraft will be completed over a four-month period. In response to an earlier request from NASA, the Mars Exploration Program formed an analysis group that proposed, in a 2015 report, possible science objectives for a Mars orbiter capable of replenishing and advancing the telecommunications and reconnaissance resources available at Mars. NASA is studying how to implement this mission concept in concert with its international partners to the greatest extent possible. Historically, there have been significant international contributions to NASA Mars missions that include the Curiosity rover, Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter spacecraft and the Mars Atmosphere and Volatile Evolution Mission orbiter, both currently orbiting the Red Planet. The agency will seek such partnerships for this potential future orbiter mission, as well. NASA is on an ambitious journey to Mars that includes sending humans to the Red Planet, and that work remains on track. Robotic spacecraft are leading the way for the Mars Exploration Program, with current missions, in addition to the planned launch of the Insight lander in 2018, and the design and build of the Mars 2020 rover. To view the Mars orbiter solicitation/Federal Business Opportunities announcement, visit: http://1.usa.gov/1qFw0Le -end- ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 17:52:56 -0700 From: "Raremeteorites" <raremeteorites at centurylink.net> To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Group of Moroccans Found the Association for Meteorite Professionals in Erfoud, Morocco Message-ID: <707ECE649CC54538A1B4E78E4F2A5078 at HPDESKTOP> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response It is good to see the Moroccans interested in proactively protecting the open trade of meteorites/fossils/minerals and are doing something about it. It is interesting that their model is based on the proven principles of capitalism, a system that works until bureaucrats detect that somebody may actually be paid for their hard work and feel something has to be done about it. It is already too late for the United States where public land is being nationalized at an alarming rate. Road blocks and keep out signs are already being installed at an alarming rate here in the Mohave Desert, a vast area that was open to meteorite and mineral hunting just a few years ago. Although capitalism is a proven system, I will be keeping my eye out for price fixing which is illegal here in the United States and can result in prison time for those who engage in it. https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/competition-guidance/guide-antitrust-laws/dealings-competitors/price-fixing http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Price+Fixing I believe in a free and open markets, not cartels so let us hope it stays clean, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartel Adam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tommy via Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2016 6:59 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Group of Moroccans Found the Association for Meteorite Professionals in Erfoud, Morocco http://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2016/04/184813/group-of-moroccans-found-the-association-for-meteorite-professionals-in-erfoud-morocco/ Regards! Tom ______________________________________________ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 13:54:49 -0400 From: Tommy <tommy58 at hvc.rr.com> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Time for another nonsense story from the media... Message-ID: <571E59E9.5000009 at hvc.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" Fire officials: Possible meteorite strike causes fire, leaves otherworldly crater in Md. http://wjla.com/news/local/possible-meteorite-strike-causes-fire-leaves-otherworldly-crater-in-md Regards! Tom -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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