[meteorite-list] Need Sutter's Mill please

From: Laurence Garvie <lgarvie_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 19:15:04 +0000
Message-ID: <4002C445-6F02-4673-9D77-F530ADB12DA1_at_asu.edu>

Dear Meteorite collectors,

I am in the process of working on the bulk mineralogy of Sutter?s Mill as determined by powder x-ray diffraction. I have run several samples now, including the pre-rain SM3, and found some interesting minerals. My big interest is in the clay mineralogy, the quantity and type in each sample I am arguing reflects degree of pre-terrestrial heating. I now have a relatively good dataset of samples (SM3,41,38,49,65,8,6,12,53), but would dearly like to run a few more. There seems to be some gaps in the data with regards to clay content and hence heating. I don?t know yet whether this gap reflects the fact that I have not looked at enough samples, or is real and is telling us that there are two groups of Sutter?s Mill - clay rich (mildly heated), and clay poor (heated to high temperature).

So, I am looking for small pieces of samples for my research. Ideally, I am looking for donations of small fragments - 100 mg would be perfect, though I can still work on samples in the 20 mg range.

If anyone has samples available, then please feel free to email me.

Thanks

Laurence

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Chair, Nomenclature Committee
The Meteoritical Society

Curator
Center for Meteorite Studies

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School of Earth and Space Exploration
Arizona State University
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  4. Firefighters Think Maryland Brush Fire Started by Meteorite
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 02:29:33 -0400
From: MexicoDoug <mexicodoug at aol.com>
To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] WR Gallery Delay ? U.S. World Record
Mars Meteorite Discovery
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'Bikkurim L'HaShem Adonai Yeshua HaMashiach' (644.7g pile)

Ba?al Zebub would be an easier nickname for that mass. Do you mean fusion crust or Krylon Fusion (R) paint?







-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Cain via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
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Sent: Sat, Apr 23, 2016 6:46 pm
Subject: [meteorite-list] WR Gallery Delay ? U.S. World Record Mars Meteorite Discovery

Meteorite List,

I would like to apologize for not having The Gallery of World Record Mars Meteorites, from the US World Record Mars Meteorite Discovery, ready and up for viewing for this Passover 4-23-16, as I said I would. Things have been very busy this school year. However, this summer I will finish. I now intend to have it ready on Rosh Hashanah 5777 AD/CE, (October 3-4, 2016), and I?m hoping a 3rd PR can be released at that time in addition.


Rosh Hashanah 5777 AD/CE should be a good year of blessings, and I?m looking forward to a new U.S. administration.



Shalom,


Glyn Howard





The Gallery of US World Record Mars Meteorite specimens:
http://gfoundit-mars.com/GalleryOfImages.html


The Evidence for GSA and GSB Mars Meteorites and Relevant Essays and Articles
http://gfoundit-mars.com/TheEvidence.html


The Evidence - G Found It - US World Record Mars Meteorite Discovery
http://www.einpresswire.com/article/225047567/the-evidence-g-found-it-us-world-record-mars-meteorite-discovery


G Found It - U.S. World Record Mars Meteorite Discovery
http://www.gfoundit-mars.com/


G Found It ? U.S. World Record Mars Meteorite Discovery
http://www.einpresswire.com/article/143477981/g-found-it-u-s-world-record-mars-meteorite-discovery





Recall: Both my sister Ann Cain (who opened the email account) and I, Glyn Howard, use the same email account ?
Ann Cain, Glyn Howard
gfndit(at)hotmail.com



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Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 00:00:11 -0700
From: <valparint at aol.com>
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
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Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Canon City

Contributed by: Anne Black

http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=04/25/2016


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Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 17:17:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ron Baalke <baalke at zagami.jpl.nasa.gov>
To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com (Meteorite Mailing List)
Subject: [meteorite-list] Dawn Spacecraft May Visit Third Asteroid
After Ceres and Vesta
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https://www.newscientist.com/article/2085288-nasas-dawn-probe-may-visit-third-asteroid-after-ceres-and-vesta/

NASA's Dawn probe may visit third asteroid after Ceres and Vesta
By Govert Schilling
New Scientist
April 20, 2016

Some spacecraft just can't sit still. After exploring asteroids Vesta
and Ceres, NASA's Dawn probe may fly off to a third destination.

Dawn was launched in September 2007, orbited Vesta for 14 months in 2011
and 2012, and then flew on to orbit Ceres in March 2015, where it remains
today.

It is the first ever spacecraft to visit two different asteroids, a hop-on,
hop-off tour made possible thanks to Dawn's low-thrust ion drive, which
uses electricity to spit out xenon ions rather than conventional rocket
fuel.

This summer, Dawn's Ceres mission will officially end. But earlier this
week, principal investigator Chris Russell of the University of California
at Los Angeles and his team sent a proposal to NASA for an extension.

Secret destination

Spacecraft at the end of their life are normally parked in an out-of-the-way
orbit, or crash land on the body they have been studying. That's the
plan for the Rosetta probe, which will touch down on comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko
later this year, but that fate won't be possible for Dawn.

"The spacecraft has not been sterilised, so we aren't allowed to touch
down on the surface of Ceres," says Russell. Strict planetary protection
rules forbid us sending Earth microbes to other worlds. "Instead, we
want to go the other way, away from Ceres, to visit yet another target."

Given the small amount of xenon fuel remaining, the list of potential
destinations is probably not too long, but Russell is keeping it a secret
for now. "As long as the mission extension has not been approved by
NASA, I'm not going to tell you which asteroid we plan to visit,"
he says. "I hope a decision won't take months."



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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 17:20:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ron Baalke <baalke at zagami.jpl.nasa.gov>
To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com (Meteorite Mailing List)
Subject: [meteorite-list] Firefighters Think Maryland Brush Fire
Started by Meteorite
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http://wtop.com/prince-georges-county/2016/04/md-brush-fire-possibly-started-meteor/slide/2/

Firefighters think Md. brush fire could have been started by meteorite;
NASA not sold
By Rick Massimo
April 25, 2016

Firefighters haven't confirmed the cause yet, but when they finally
got the fire out, they found a crater with a rock at the bottom.

WASHINGTON - A big brush fire in Bowie, Maryland, took several hours
to put out, and while firefighters thought that might have been because
it was started by a meteorite, scientists make a convincing case the cause
was more earthly.

The fire started Sunday evening between 5 p.m. and 6 p.m. in a wooded
area near Scarlett Oaks Terrace, the Bowie Volunteer Fire Department said.

Firefighters haven't confirmed the cause yet, but when they finally
got the fire out, they found a crater with a rock at the bottom.

They think flames from the rock ignited the trees and bushes in the area.
They left the rock there.

NASA, however, isn't buying it.

Mike Kelley, a program scientist in NASA's Planetary Defense Coordination
Office, tells WTOP that there's no way a meteorite caused the fire in
Bowie on Sunday evening.

Meteorites "on a small scale do not start fires," Kelley said. "They're
not hot enough when they reach the ground."

They heat up when they enter the atmosphere, but Kelley says that only
the outer millimeter or so heats up. By the time a meteorite hits the
ground, it's nowhere near hot enough to cause a fire.

As for the crater, Kelley said it looks like a pit dug in the woods, or
maybe an embankment, but it's not a meteorite impact crater, which he
described as "something that looks like it would have popped out of
the ground, like a splash."

He added that even though there's a rock at the bottom of the hole,
that's not particularly unusual.

"Yes, there's a rock at the bottom, but if you dig down four feet
to the left, will you see another rock?"

But the bottom line is, a meteorite wouldn't cause a fire unless it
was massive, Kelley said.

The Tunguska event, a blast more powerful than the first atomic bomb and
thought to have been started by a meteorite, didn't start a fire, though
it knocked down an estimated 80,000 trees. The KT impactor, said to have
led to the extinction of the dinosaurs, may have started a fire, Kelley
said, but it measured miles across.

"If something on that scale occurred in Maryland, we wouldn't be having
this conversation," Kelley said.



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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 17:21:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ron Baalke <baalke at zagami.jpl.nasa.gov>
To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com (Meteorite Mailing List)
Subject: [meteorite-list] NASA Seeks Industry Ideas for an Advanced
Mars Satellite
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April 21, 2016

RELEASE 16-046

NASA Seeks Industry Ideas for an Advanced Mars Satellite

NASA is soliciting ideas from U.S. industry for designs of a Mars orbiter for
potential launch in the 2020s. The satellite would provide advanced
communications and imaging, as well as robotic science exploration, in
support of NASA's Journey to Mars.

The orbiter would substantially increase bandwidth communications and
maintain high-resolution imaging capability. It also may use experimental
cutting-edge technologies, such as high-power solar electric propulsion or an
optical communications package, which could greatly improve transmission
speed and capacity over radio frequency systems.

Under the direction of NASA's Mars Exploration Program, the agency's Jet
Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in Pasadena, California, is conducting
pre-formulation planning for this possible orbiter mission. Pre-formulation
plans include the procurement of industry studies for a solar-powered
orbiting spacecraft. This effort seeks to take advantage of industry
capabilities to improve deep space, solar electric propulsion-enabled
orbiters to accommodate scientific instruments, demonstrate capability for
rendezvous and capture, and advance telecommunications capabilities.

"Our success in exploring Mars, to unravel the mysteries of the Red Planet,
depends on having high bandwidth communication with Earth and overhead
imaging," said John Grunsfeld, astronaut and associate administrator of
NASA's Science Mission Directorate in Washington. "Currently, we depend
on our orbiting science missions to perform dual service in making
measurements and acting as communication relays, but we can't depend on
them to last forever. This new orbiter will use cutting-edge technology to
revitalize our ability to continue to explore Mars and support transformative
science, including a potential sample return mission in the future."

JPL plans to award concept study subcontracts of $400,000 per subcontract in
June. The concept studies for the spacecraft will be completed over a
four-month period.

In response to an earlier request from NASA, the Mars Exploration Program
formed an analysis group that proposed, in a 2015 report, possible science
objectives for a Mars orbiter capable of replenishing and advancing the
telecommunications and reconnaissance resources available at Mars.

NASA is studying how to implement this mission concept in concert with its
international partners to the greatest extent possible. Historically, there
have been significant international contributions to NASA Mars missions that
include the Curiosity rover, Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter spacecraft and the
Mars Atmosphere and Volatile Evolution Mission orbiter, both currently
orbiting the Red Planet. The agency will seek such partnerships for this
potential future orbiter mission, as well.

NASA is on an ambitious journey to Mars that includes sending humans to the
Red Planet, and that work remains on track. Robotic spacecraft are
leading the way for the Mars Exploration Program, with current missions, in
addition to the planned launch of the Insight lander in 2018, and the design
and build of the Mars 2020 rover.

To view the Mars orbiter solicitation/Federal Business Opportunities
announcement, visit:

http://1.usa.gov/1qFw0Le

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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 17:52:56 -0700
From: "Raremeteorites" <raremeteorites at centurylink.net>
To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Group of Moroccans Found the Association
for Meteorite Professionals in Erfoud, Morocco
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reply-type=response

It is good to see the Moroccans interested in proactively protecting the
open trade of meteorites/fossils/minerals and are doing something about it.
It is interesting that their model is based on the proven principles of
capitalism, a system that works until bureaucrats detect that somebody may
actually be paid for their hard work and feel something has to be done about
it. It is already too late for the United States where public land is being
nationalized at an alarming rate. Road blocks and keep out signs are
already being installed at an alarming rate here in the Mohave Desert, a
vast area that was open to meteorite and mineral hunting just a few years
ago.

Although capitalism is a proven system, I will be keeping my eye out for
price fixing which is illegal here in the United States and can result in
prison time for those who engage in it.

https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/competition-guidance/guide-antitrust-laws/dealings-competitors/price-fixing

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Price+Fixing

I believe in a free and open markets, not cartels so let us hope it stays
clean, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartel

Adam




----- Original Message -----
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To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2016 6:59 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Group of Moroccans Found the Association for
Meteorite Professionals in Erfoud, Morocco


http://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2016/04/184813/group-of-moroccans-found-the-association-for-meteorite-professionals-in-erfoud-morocco/


Regards!

Tom

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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 13:54:49 -0400
From: Tommy <tommy58 at hvc.rr.com>
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Time for another nonsense story from the
media...
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 Fire officials: Possible meteorite strike causes fire, leaves
 otherworldly crater in Md.



http://wjla.com/news/local/possible-meteorite-strike-causes-fire-leaves-otherworldly-crater-in-md

Regards!

Tom

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