[meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down
From: Michael Farmer <mike_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 07:10:54 -0800 Message-ID: <2E949FC8-2B82-4B0C-8589-DB327C37BD81_at_meteoriteguy.com> Steve is not "reselling". You are taking advantage of a mentally-challenged person who loves to throw his money in the trash. He bought a piece from me and promptly sold it for 1/3 what he paid before he even received it. You know what he does, why he does it no one knows. You should be ashamed to even participate in that nonsense. I am ashamed I sold to him. It won't happen again. I guess too much time had passed and I had forgotten what was likely to happen. Michael Sent from my iPad > On Nov 16, 2015, at 3:44 AM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > > I was not going to mention my deal with Steve in this discussion, Michael, because I did not want people to think they could already find it cheaper from others who are reselling for their own reasons. I did not want to undermine your investment by stating that, but now the cat is out of the bag, and that is your doing. > > Yes, in case anyone is wondering, you can already find a good deal on Bingol by having a little patience, and buying a piece from someone reselling. Like I said before, I am always looking for the deals. Otherwise how do you afford meteorites on a Medical Student's income...? > > All this discussion about prices does not change the current prices, it only changes the attitude toward these prices in the future. That's what is important in my mind. > > John > > > > > > Sent using the mail.com mail app > >> On 11/15/15 at 11:58 PM, Michael Farmer wrote: >> >> You didn't buy that Chelyabinsk from me, I never sold for that price. And I'm sorry, but a 10,000 ton impactor flooded the market with more material than the market could consume. Classic supply and demand. Don't worry about it. Since you were able to take advantage of Steve's imbecile behavior of selling Bingol at 1/3 of what he paid me, or not, don't know if he cancelled that deal, if so you got a good price. If not, then go buy NWA chondrites, they're nice and cheap. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> >> >>>> On Nov 15, 2015, at 8:34 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote: >>> >> >>> Chelyabinsk was an extraordinary event too. I spent 50$/g on my first specimens of it and now they sell for 5$/g from IMCA sellers on the good old fashioned irrelevent Ebay. ;-) >> >> >>> Extraordinary event or no, that doesn't mean a piece of Bingol sold for 150$/g today won't show up on Ebay a year from now for less than half that price. >> >> >>> G'night all. Have fun collecting. :-) >> >> >>> John >> >> >> >> >> >>> Sent using the mail.com mail app >> >> >>>> On 11/15/15 at 11:08 PM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list wrote: >> >> >>>> I'm simply shocked at the seeming lack of knowledge I'm seeing lately. Between the people who still think eBay is relevant to the fact that a Howardite fall seems blas? compared to incredible Morasko. I am flabbergasted that the new collectors/dealers see clueless as to exactly what an extraordinary even this was. I didn't just go to a damned war zone lightly. But it's a chance of a lifetime so I took the risks. Not alone I might add. But hey, don't worry, some campitos are up for grabs tonight on eBay:) >> >>>> Sorry guys, not at all impugning small collectors. I spent the time to package and ship $20 orders from Europe! In one box a $20 piece, the next box a $20,000 piece. Sounds to me like I take care of my customers, down to the smallest order. >> >> >>>> Michael Farmer >> >> >>>> Sent from my iPad >> >> >>>>> On Nov 15, 2015, at 7:24 PM, Gmail <mendy.ouzillou at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>>>> Michael, >> >> >>>>> Seriously! John is a collector and enthusiastic about meteorites. Maybe you have bought and sold $150k of Bingol, but that doesn't give you the right to insult people. Why not keep your personal business dealings to yourself? You work hard for your living, you may even be the top grossing dealer on this planet, but no need to tell everyone. You have a great reputation until you say things like this. There is room for all kinds of collectors and, dare I say, even dealers. I personally felt John's comments engendered some great discussions and provided unique insights likely shared by others. Clearly, based on my own response, I did not agree with John, but I never felt the need to insult him. >> >> >>>>> Oh well, to each his own. >> >> >>>>> Mendy Ouzillou >> >> >>>>> On Nov 15, 2015, at 8:44 PM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote: >> >> >>>>> Who is this? A new dealer? >> >>>>> Comparing a howardite fall to Morasko? A frigging rotten old iron that can be found by the ton? Identical to campo? Please, these people need to go find a meteorite Walmart. Leave the actual good stuff to the professionals? >> >>>>> I've already bought and sold more than $150,000 in Bing?l. And eBay is not the place it sells. >> >>>>> Good luck guys. Bottom feeders. >> >> >> >>>>> Michael Farmer >> >> >>>>>> On Nov 15, 2015, at 2:50 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote: >> >> >>>>>> Hi John, >> >> >>>>>> I completely understand what you mean, as I have made a great living >> >>>>>> selling meteorites of all types over the last 18 years. >> >> >>>>>> However, history has proven that while most meteorites do go up in >> >>>>>> value over time - rare witnessed falls almost always appreciate in >> >>>>>> value dramatically. >> >> >>>>>> Which explains why so many collectors moving to collecting only falls now days. >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list >> >>>>>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>> Ruben, >> >>>>>>> For 450$ you can get a 3g piece of Bingol (that you need a loop to really enjoy) or you can get a 177g etched slice of Morasko that looks phenomenal in your collection. >> >> >>>>>>> Added to this, that Bingol piece really isn't any harder to find for the buyer than Morasko, and in the long run will probably be worth 50-75% of what you pay now. >> >> >>>>>>> Howardite fall or not, the price is more than I'm willing to pay. >> >>>>>>> My opinion atleast. >> >>>>>>> Cheers, >> >>>>>>> John >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Sent using the mail.com mail app >> >> >>>>>>>> On 11/15/15 at 5:32 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list wrote: >> >> >>>>>>>> Hi John, >> >> >>>>>>>> It's a howarite fall..... >> >> >>>>>>>> In my opinion it's probably about once in 20-30 year type thing. >> >>>>>>>> Expensive? Yes, but I think not over priced - at least not for what >> >>>>>>>> it is. >> >> >>>>>>>> Other achondrite falls like Passamonte - $1000 per gram >> >> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list >> >>>>>>>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> I may be crucified for saying this, but it's a little bit ridiculous... >> >>>>>>>>> So many specimens and demanding so high a price... Just feels ridiculous. >> >>>>>>>>> Anyhow... Enjoy the specimens! >> >>>>>>>>> John A. Shea >> >>>>>>>>> IMCA 3295 >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Sent using the mail.com mail app >> >> >>>>>>>>>> On 11/15/15 at 5:08 PM, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list wrote: >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Hello Listers >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Looks like there is a lot of the material coming from that fall :) >> >>>>>>>>>> if villagers have received over $200,000. >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Shawn Alan >> >>>>>>>>>> IMCA 1633 >> >>>>>>>>>> ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html >> >>>>>>>>>> Website http://meteoritefalls.com >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make >> >>>>>>>>>> Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down >> >> >>>>>>>>>> "When a meteor exploded over a village in eastern Turkey in September, >> >>>>>>>>>> residents were frightened by the sound and the illuminated sky. In the >> >>>>>>>>>> weeks that followed, they started picking up small bits of black rock, >> >>>>>>>>>> but considered them insignificant. Then, with the visit of an academic >> >>>>>>>>>> from a university in Istanbul, they learned the tiny stones they?d >> >>>>>>>>>> been finding scattered across their land were a financial godsend. >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Last week alone, collectors from Germany and the U.S. spent some >> >>>>>>>>>> $200,000 on the meteorites, according to Mehmet Nezir Erg?n, one of the >> >>>>>>>>>> villagers. ?I hope everyone finds some. Poor people are always looking >> >>>>>>>>>> for pieces. They need them more than we do,? Erg?n told the Do?an >> >>>>>>>>>> News Agency, according to Today's Zaman." >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Source: >> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.ibtimes.com/meteorite-fall-over-eastern-turkish-village-poor-villagers-make-hundreds-thousands-2175990 >> >> >>>>>>>>>> ______________________________________________ >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> >>>>>>>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >> >>>>>>>>>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >> >>>>>>>>>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >>>>>>>>> ______________________________________________ >> >> >>>>>>>>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> >>>>>>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >> >>>>>>>>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >> >>>>>>>>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>>> Rock On! >> >> >>>>>>>> Ruben Garcia >> >>>>>>>> http://www.MrMeteorite.com >> >>>>>>>> ______________________________________________ >> >> >>>>>>>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> >>>>>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >> >>>>>>>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >> >>>>>>>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >>>>>>> ______________________________________________ >> >> >>>>>>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> >>>>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >> >>>>>>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >> >>>>>>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> >> >> >>>>>> -- >> >>>>>> Rock On! >> >> >>>>>> Ruben Garcia >> >>>>>> http://www.MrMeteorite.com >> >>>>>> ______________________________________________ >> >> >>>>>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> >>>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >> >>>>>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >> >>>>>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >>>>> ______________________________________________ >> >> >>>>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> >>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >> >>>>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >> >>>>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >>>> ______________________________________________ >> >> >>>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> >>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >> >>>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >> >>>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >>> ______________________________________________ >> >> >>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >> >>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >> >>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > ______________________________________________ > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Received on Mon 16 Nov 2015 10:10:54 AM PST |
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