[meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Bingol is not overpriced, here is why.

From: Michael Farmer <mike_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2015 20:28:49 -0800
Message-ID: <D1102BCB-2228-45A6-B037-AE1068B97DAE_at_meteoriteguy.com>

I'm sorry Anne, perhaps a good internet check would clue you in that since the Syrian war, things have slightly changed in that area. Go there now. I have videos of machine gun fire in the area surrounding Bing?l. We left 7 days early because my Kurdish guide was afraid for our safety. The strenwfield has Syrian refugees camped out in it.
Damascus was nice place to have tea 5 years ago. Today it is a rubble pile.
Michael

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> On Nov 15, 2015, at 5:29 PM, Anne Black via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
> Just one small correction.
> You wrote: "well outside the tourist-friendly confines of the capital, "
> No, it is on the main road between the southern coast of Turkey and Lake Van, a good 200 km from the Syrian border as the crow flies. I was there a few years ago, and yes the Turks were picking on the Kurds and there were tanks and armored carriers all over the place, it made driving around very interesting. But quite friendly. No problem at all.
>
>
> Anne M. Black
> www.IMPACTIKA.com
> IMPACTIKA at aol.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
> To: Ruben Garcia <rubengarcia85382 at gmail.com>
> Cc: Anne Black <impactika at aol.com>; Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>; Bigjohn Shea <bigjohnshea at mail.com>
> Sent: Sun, Nov 15, 2015 6:11 pm
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Bingol is not overpriced, here is why.
>
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I have been following the Bingol fall as closely as possible and
> here
> is why I think this fall is not overpriced.
>
> Bingol is not Ankara. It is
> out in Kurd country closer to the
> Syria-Iraq borders. In addition to having
> ISIS terrorists hiding under
> rocks, there is a long-standing and bloody battle
> between the Turkish
> government and armed Kurdish separatist groups. This
> meteorite fell
> well outside the tourist-friendly confines of the capital, and
> this
> area is not safe.
>
> Traveling to that area of the Turkey and being that
> close to the
> clusterphuck in Syria is taking a serious risk to one's life
> and
> well-being. The price of a fall tends to go up when the finder
> and/or
> buyer is risking their life in a tangible way.
>
> Airfare to Turkey is
> not cheap. Travel expenses are not cheap.
>
> This is the first witnessed fall of
> a howardite in this century.
>
> The stone are magnificent. Some resemble
> replicas of Lafayette with a
> profusion of delicate flow-lines on
> superbly-oriented specimens.
> Lovely semi-translucent crust.
>
> There will never
> be much of this material on the market in the future
> - the TKW is modest. This
> is not another Chelyabinsk where the prices
> are going to drop significantly
> later.
>
> To each their with personal collecting tastes. I am not saying
> Bingol
> is better than any other meteorite. I am just giving my opinion
> that
> Bingol does not appear to be any more overpriced than any typical
> new
> fall is. The first kid on the block with the new toy pays the most.
> Prices
> usually decline after the newness wears off. But, given the
> circumstances of
> this fall, the circumstances of the recovery, and the
> type, I do not see the
> price dropping dramatically later.
>
> I see a lot of this material moving on
> social media outside eBay. It
> doesn't appear to be sitting on the shelves very
> long. I think eBay
> has become it's own peculiar animal now that does not
> resemble the
> eBay meteorite market of old, but that's another story.
>
> Best
> regards and Happy Huntings,
>
> MikeG
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> On
> 11/15/15, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> wrote:
>> Keep in mind I was referring to crusted individuals - like the
> Bingol
>> I''m selling - not crumbs.
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Anne
> Black <impactika at aol.com> wrote:
>>> Sorry, I sold my last fragment, 1.1g, not
> all that long ago.
>>> I'll let you know next time I get some.
>>>
>>>
>>> Anne
> M. Black
>>> www.IMPACTIKA.com
>>> IMPACTIKA at aol.com
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original
> Message-----
>>> From: Ruben Garcia <rubengarcia85382 at gmail.com>
>>> To: Anne
> Black <impactika at aol.com>
>>> Cc: Bigjohn Shea <bigjohnshea at mail.com>;
>>>
> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>>
> Sent: Sun, Nov 15, 2015 4:59 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall
> Over Eastern Turkish Village:
>>> Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of
> Dollars After Black Stones
>>> From Space Rain Down
>>>
>>>
>>> Ha ha,
>>>
>>>
> Anne I love you but please point me to where I can buy Passamonte
>>> for
>>>
> $250 to $300 per gram. I will buy it right now!
>>>
>>> A link, a name,
>>>
> anything would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Anne
> Black
>>> <impactika at aol.com> wrote:
>>>> Sorry Ruben,
>>>>
>>>> Pasamonte is
> about $250/$300 a
>>> gram.
>>>> This one is terribly over-priced.
>>>> I love
> great historical falls, but
>>> I'll skip this one.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anne M.
> Black
>>>> www.IMPACTIKA.com
>>>>
>>> IMPACTIKA at aol.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Ruben Garcia via
>>> Meteorite-list
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>>> To: Bigjohn Shea
>>>
> <bigjohnshea at mail.com>
>>>> Cc: Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list
>>>
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>>> Sent: Sun, Nov 15, 2015 3:32
> pm
>>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish
> Village:
>>> Poor
>>> Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After
> Black Stones From
>>> Space
>>> Rain Down
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi John,
>>>>
>>>> It's
> a howarite fall.....
>>>>
>>>> In my opinion
>>> it's probably about once
> in
>>>> 20-30 year type thing.
>>>> Expensive? Yes, but I
>>> think not over
> priced - at least
>>>> not for what
>>>> it is.
>>>>
>>>> Other
>>> achondrite
> falls like Passamonte - $1000 per
>>>> gram
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015
>>>
> at 3:12 PM, Bigjohn Shea via
>>>> Meteorite-list
>>>>
>>>
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>>>> I may be crucified
>>>>
> for
>>> saying this, but it's a little bit ridiculous...
>>>>> So many specimens
> and
>>>>
>>> demanding so high a price... Just feels ridiculous.
>>>>>
> Anyhow... Enjoy the
>>>>
>>> specimens!
>>>>> John A. Shea
>>>>> IMCA
> 3295
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent using the
>>> mail.com mail
>>>>
> app
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/15/15 at 5:08 PM, Shawn Alan via
>>> Meteorite-list
> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello
>>>> Listers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks like there is a
>>>
> lot of the material coming from that fall
>>>> :)
>>>>>> if villagers have
> received
>>> over $200,000.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shawn Alan
>>>>>> IMCA
> 1633
>>>>>>
>>>> ebay store
>>> http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html
>>>>>>
> Website
>>>>
>>> http://meteoritefalls.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Meteorite Fall Over
> Eastern Turkish
>>> Village:
>>>> Poor Villagers Make
>>>>>> Hundreds Of
> Thousands Of Dollars After
>>> Black Stones From
>>>> Space Rain
> Down
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "When a meteor exploded over a
>>> village in eastern
> Turkey
>>>> in September,
>>>>>> residents were frightened by the
>>> sound and
> the illuminated sky.
>>>> In the
>>>>>> weeks that followed, they started
>>>
> picking up small bits of black
>>>> rock,
>>>>>> but considered them
> insignificant.
>>> Then, with the visit of an
>>>> academic
>>>>>> from a
> university in Istanbul, they
>>> learned the tiny stones
>>>> they?d
>>>>>> been
> finding scattered across their land
>>> were a financial
>>>>
> godsend.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Last week alone, collectors from Germany
>>> and the U.S.
> spent
>>>> some
>>>>>> $200,000 on the meteorites, according to Mehmet
>>> Nezir
> Erg?n, one of
>>>> the
>>>>>> villagers. ?I hope everyone finds some. Poor
>>>
> people are always looking
>>>>>>
>>>> for pieces. They need them more than we
> do,?
>>> Erg?n told the Do?an
>>>>>> News
>>>> Agency, according to Today's
> Zaman."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> Source:
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
> http://www.ibtimes.com/meteorite-fall-over-eastern-turkish-village-poor-villagers-make-hundreds-thousands-2175990
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
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