[meteorite-list] Accepting Inquiries From AccreditedScientificor Educational Institutions...

From: John Lutzon <jl_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 17:29:41 -0400
Message-ID: <77FE372FF9844EFB965E87109498B5BF_at_Home>

I agree Ed, but may I add the following: ?

All sales and discussions of Meteorites is highly encouraged.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Deckert via Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
To: "Sterling K. Webb" <sterling_k_webb at sbcglobal.net>; "'Galactic Stone & Ironworks'" <meteoritemike at gmail.com>;
<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Accepting Inquiries From AccreditedScientificor Educational Institutions...



Sales of all sentences, commas, periods, semi-colons and all other
punctuation marks are hereby suspended until further notice.

Ed D

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sterling K. Webb via Meteorite-list"
<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
To: "'Galactic Stone & Ironworks'" <meteoritemike at gmail.com>;
<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Accepting Inquiries From Accredited
Scientificor Educational Institutions...


> You are severely underpricing your
> punctuation. Really good comma's
> are worth at least two bucks a pair. A
> proper semi-colon should be $1.00 to
> $1.50. You should work up a detailed
> price list...
>
> Sterling Webb
> --------------------------------------
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com]
> On
> Behalf Of Galactic Stone & Ironworks via Meteorite-list
> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 1:02 PM
> To: Peter Richards
> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com; Michael Farmer
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Accepting Inquiries From Accredited
> Scientific
> or Educational Institutions...
>
> I was trying to be genuinely helpful. And now I am reminded why I do not
> reply to these kind of inquiries. The messenger always gets shot.
> I tried in good faith to be helpful to you and you start launching
> accusations. The rest of your replies are too incomprehensible or
> paranoid
> to warrant a reply.
>
> This is my last reply on this matter. Any further replies will cost you
> $20
> per sentence with punctuation being an extra .25 cents per period or
> comma.
> Payment in advance only.
>
>
>
>
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> On 6/7/15, Peter Richards <pedrichards at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Mike, I think your approach is great for novices. I know that not only
>> you but many professional meteoricists have your "hardline", barely
>> logical, if so, preconceived, "paper form" reply, when, of course, it
>> is an odd inheritor of the mantle of people who once said meteorites
>> did not even exist, which I believe Geoff Notkin has reported included
>> the heads of the Catholic church at one point historically. I get that
>> scientists, like you seem to me to, might prefer to discredit the
>> possibility than be honest, yet, again, it is what it is. My previous
>> statements are what they are. You can call them what you want, at the
>> behest of yourself or your friends or whoever motivates you to do what
>> you do. Of course, oddly enough, you seemingly disingenuous people are
>> leaning into this, and seem prepared to throw your all at me in such a
>> muckracking match, in lieu of the professionals. Really, I have some
>> emails from them, so it is the same. You all are what you are, the
>> rock is what it is (as previously described), and I am what I am, and
>> maybe I should have not been provoked by your message, and ignored it,
>> but, I have already written this and the "send" button is in sight, so
>> do not fight. I know how great you all are. I have explained what you
>> are doing. I don't know why. It does protect your financial interests,
>> and my writing the truth, and not being cowed by past "infidelities"
>> is my attempt to protect my own.
>> cordially,
>> Peter
>> P.S. There are no granite meteorites recognized/officially-known and
>> would it not be bizarre if some people had a bias towards wanting it
>> to stay that way?
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks
>> <meteoritemike at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Peter,
>>>
>>> It's hard to tell from the photos, but I do not see any outward signs
>>> that would suggest these rocks might be meteorites. I do not see any
>>> fusion crust, and what I do see is probably desert varnish. Desert
>>> varnish forms on all rocks, not just meteorites.
>>>
>>> Have you done a streak test or specific gravity test? These are both
>>> low-tech tests that anybody can use to narrow down the range of
>>> possibilities. If the rocks fails the streak test, it's not a
>>> meteorite. If the rock has a specific gravity that falls outside the
>>> range for stony meteorites, then it's not a meteorite.
>>>
>>> You will find that most "accredited" institutions that work with
>>> meteorites do not accept unsolicited samples because of the sheer
>>> volume of rocks clogging the system waiting for analysis.
>>>
>>> My advice is to use the streak and specific gravity tests to help
>>> rule in/out the possibility of the stones being meteoritic or
> terrestrial.
>>> If the rocks pass these tests, then try cutting a window into one of
>>> them and see if there are any chondrules or metal flecks.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> MikeG
>>>
>>> PS - there are no granite meteorites, so if the rock is "granite"
>>> then it is not a meteorite.
>>>
>>> --
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com
>>> Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone
>>> Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest -
>>> http://pinterest.com/galacticstone
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> On 6/7/15, Peter Richards via Meteorite-list
>>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>>> Hello Michael, no, but I will pass the Actlabs information on to any
>>>> representatives of accredited institutions who inquire. The stone is
>>>> a granite, and the photos may not tell the story of the crust
>>>> glaringly, but it is apparently what is there, for those of us (me
>>>> only right
>>>> now) who have the privilege of holding the stone. Thank you for the
>>>> "bump" anyway, although, of course, I am wondering what your
>>>> intentions were. Anyway, again, you use official scale cubes, and
>>>> these animal sculptures are all I have right now, but I understand
>>>> that it is less than fully ideal, and, again, this is not a
>>>> commercial sale, so to Mr. Farmer's defence, he is not lowering the
>>>> price for some associate of his to buy. Yes, I am a real person and
>>>> an American citizen, and the rock is as it was described, and I am
>>>> sorry that some people want to tell me it is what sort of terrestrial
> rock by chance?
>>>> God knows. Keep looking if interested, and I will try to improve the
>>>> photos, but there is perhaps adequate visual information already.
>>>> regards,
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 11:08 PM, Michael Farmer
>>>> <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> What kind of Nigerian scam attempt is this email? Trying to sell
>>>>> garbage trinkets?
>>>>> A,asking what makes it on the list these days.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 6, 2015, at 8:48 PM, Peter Richards via Meteorite-list
>>>>>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To whom it may concern, I am offering this link, for the benefit
>>>>>> of representatives of accredited educational and scientific
>>>>>> institutions, displaying a stone which an Actlabs (of Lancaster,
>>>>>> Ontario) report has identified to me as a granite, which, is
>>>>>> almost definitely meteoritic, which I say due to the distinct
>>>>>> coating, and its shape, given that I have not shaped or coated
>>>>>> this stone and that these traits appear in no way artificial. I
>>>>>> can only guess what value to anyone denying that this could be a
>>>>>> meteorite is, but I will have to preclude such proclamations by
>>>>>> reminding people that, unless I have truly missed something, there
>>>>>> is less evidence to support such a claim than there is to support my
> above-made claim.
>>>>>> Here is a link to a photo album, please see first photo
>>>>>> (sculptures are for scale reference, btw):
>>>>>> http://www.ipernity.com/doc/312101/album/793480
>>>>>> I am gauging interest alone here, I do not suppose this counts as
>>>>>> an ad, for the purposes are less than commercial although I, of
>>>>>> course, would like to determine if it is legal for any grants, or
>>>>>> such things, to be given by any willing recipients of any material
>>>>>> I make available, to me, as a token of gratitude, to compensate
>>>>>> for my exertions while acquiring this, and to help me better
>>>>>> conserve what I have collected, in case there is indeed scientific
>>>>>> value belonging to this collection of mine, and, it is ultimately
>>>>>> up to Art whether or not this counts as an advertisement technically
> speaking.
>>>>>> Promptness will be much appreciated and rewarded where possible.
>>>>>> Once more, this is for accredited educational or scientific
>>>>>> institutions. I will hear of interest from outside the U.S., but
>>>>>> the state department's approval will be needed before anything is
>>>>>> provided to such institutions, as according to law.
>>>>>> Thank you and kindest regards to all, Peter E. D. Richards
>>>>>> currently of Chicago, IL
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