[meteorite-list] Why isn't Mreira classified as a Fall?

From: Jim Wooddell <jim.wooddell_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 11:48:00 -0700
Message-ID: <531F5A60.8040808_at_suddenlink.net>

Hi all!
Kinda hits one of my pet peeves on the head! In this day and age, we
should be expecting and "requiring" better provenance from finds and
falls from
the NWA regions.

Jim



On 3/11/2014 11:22 AM, Matt Morgan wrote:
> No doubt that the fact that it is from NWA taints it as a probable fall.
>
> On March 11, 2014 12:21:00 PM MDT, Mendy Ouzillou <ouzillou at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Is there any scientific evidence related to its analysis to suggest
>> that Mreira is not a fresh (observed) fall? If not, then I have to ask,
>> if this fall had taken place in the US or France, would there have been
>> any question?
>>
>>
>> I understand that the NWA situation is complex, but I believe that
>> science, not opinion should drive the decision.
>>
>> Look at the Indian Butte writeup. That is listed as a "Fall" with less
>> evidence than Mreira in my opinion.
>>
>> Mendy Ouzillou
>>
>>
>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Matt Morgan <mail at mhmeteorites.com>
>>> To: Ruben Garcia <rubengarcia85382 at gmail.com>;
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>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Why isn't Mreira classified as a Fall?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mreira was submitted by me as a fall but the NomCom couldn't reach a
>> consensus. So it was likely witnessed as stated in the description. As
>> you noted Ruben it is as fresh as can be....
>>> Matt Morgan
>>>
>>> On March 11, 2014 11:00:59 AM MDT, Ruben Garcia
>> <rubengarcia85382 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> When I purchased Mreira months ago I was told by the Moroccan dealers
>>>> that it was a witnessed fall. Ok, lets be real, anyone can say
>>>> anything in order to make a sale. However, it looks as fresh as any
>>>> fall I've ever seen/found.
>>>>
>>>> Photos here:
>>>> http://www.mrmeteorite.com/mreirameteorite.htm
>>>>
>>>> Read the write up - it seems to agree that it is indeed a fall.
>>>>
>>>> History: According to Ait Hiba Abdelhad, a fireball was seen in the
>>>> afternoon sky on December 16, 2012, several school children saw the
>>>> fireball explode and detonations were heard near the village of
>>>> Mehaires, Western Sahara. Pieces were recovered approximately 40
>> miles
>>>> south of Mehaires, near Mre?ra, Mauritania, only a few days after the
>>>> event. The strewn field is in the area called "Stailt Omgrain", which
>>>> is a local nomadic name. This is south of Mehaires and north of the
>>>> mountain "Galbe lahmar". Therefore this is a possible fall associated
>>>> with the fireball of December 16, 2012.
>>>>
>>>> *******Possible fall? What else do you need? *******
>>>>
>>>> Meteoritical Bulletin for Mreira
>>>>
>>>> http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=Mre%C3%AFra&sfor=names&ants=&falls=&valids=&stype=contains&lrec=50?=ge&browse=&country=All&srt=name&categ=All&mblist=All?=&phot=&snew=0&pnt=Normal%20table&code=57653
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