[meteorite-list] KATOL (L6) is official

From: Graham Ensor <graham.ensor_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 14:49:00 +0000
Message-ID: <CAJkn+kaFxsj6bmrhPWM-fdMzO9XKt=QocjbA1dTwgkwjf_pAhA_at_mail.gmail.com>

Great discussion...Jeff, you preempted exactly what I was thinking...I
would think such data added to classifications showing details of
unusual lithologies and individuals within the general classification
would be greatly appreciated by all. The variations within falls and
finds always fascinate me.

Graham

On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Jeff Grossman <jngrossman at gmail.com> wrote:
> Two things:
>
> Many meteorites are heterogeneous. When we say Katol is L6 or NWA 869 is
> L3-6 or Almahata Sitta is an anomalous urelite, these are collective terms.
> "Katol" refers to everything that fell that day in India. It has been
> classified as L6. However, it is possible (and for Almahata Sitta,
> probable) that a given specimen does not representatively sample the
> incoming meteoroid. There is nothing wrong with saying that Almahata Sitta
> #25 is dominated by an H5 lithology or that Katol #4(?) is a metal rich
> lithology. Good practice would be to assign some kind of specimen number to
> each object and publish a catalog, so the world will always know what you
> are talking about. I would gladly publish such specimen tables in the
> MetBull database, especially if done systematically.
>
> As for the name question, NomCom would only give a separate name if there
> was significant doubt that a specimen was part of the Katol fall. This has
> happened before, as with Galim (b) and Zag (b), but it didn't happen with
> Almahata Sitta and I don't think there is much doubt in this case either.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> On 1/2/2014 9:24 AM, Greg Hup? wrote:
>>
>> Since the iron was found with other fresh Katol stony pieces and some of
>> the stony matrix is clearly visible on the outside of the iron, I see no
>> reason to even consider cutting it to get a separate name. That is one nice
>> thing of the iron being collected within a couple days of the fall, and well
>> before any rains came along to oxidize and/or discolor the portion of matric
>> on the iron. I think the few irons should be mentioned in the Official Katol
>> classification, clearly they are 'pop-outs' from the Katol mass.
>>
>> ...just my 2 Rupees worth...
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Greg
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>> -----Original Message----- From: Michael Farmer
>> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 9:13 AM
>> To: Jim Wooddell
>> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] KATOL (L6) is official
>>
>> I am not going to cut that piece.
>>
>> Michael Farmer
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 7:03 AM, Jim Wooddell <jim.wooddell at suddenlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Then it should have it's own classification! If it's 95% metal.
>>> Just my opinion.
>>>
>>> Do we classify falls or meteorites?
>>>
>>> Seems we loose by classifying falls.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> On 1/2/2014 6:24 AM, Michael Farmer wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It was bought on the spot from the finders as they lined up to sell the
>>>> meteorites.
>>>> It is Katol:) Central India is not Morocco with every person having a
>>>> box of meteorites to sell.
>>>> It is almost completely iron, with perhaps 5% silicates.
>>>>
>>>> Michael Farmer
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 6:05 AM, Jim Wooddell <jim.wooddell at suddenlink.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Mike and all!
>>>>>
>>>>> Can't tell by looking at it if it's all metal. If it is predominently
>>>>> metal (by a large %) and the olivines and such match that of Katol, then
>>>>> this would be an L-Metal....would it not?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/1/2014 5:33 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, this piece is oriented heat shield shaped with countless flow
>>>>>> lines and bubbles on the thick backside crust. There are a couple of
>>>>>> crystal-rich sections. It is one of my favorite pieces in my collection, the
>>>>>> adventure to acquire was a little scary.
>>>>>> Laurence Garvie has taken many photos of it, I am sure he has
>>>>>> incredible photos I haven't seen. This photo was the only one I got.
>>>>>> The piece is still at ASU on loan, it will be on display at the Tucson
>>>>>> show.
>>>>>> Michael Farmer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
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