[meteorite-list] is it a meteorite

From: Peter Scherff <PeterScherff_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 16:32:53 -0400
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Hi,

There is little in the world more enjoyable than a mischievous scientist.

Thanks,

Peter

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How do you know that ureilites, aubrites, acapulcoites and the many
achondrite-ung are NOT exploded bits of parent planets destroyed by alien
warfare in our solar system a long time ago? In which case they would not be
meteorites.


Carl
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On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Jeff Grossman <jngrossman at gmail.com> wrote:
> If a fragment of Alderaan hit the Death Star, it would be a meteorite.
> Oh wait, this was not transported by natural means! Well, you get the
idea.
>
> Yes, "itself" is the meteorite.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> On 4/8/2014 3:17 PM, Mendy Ouzillou wrote:
>>
>> OK, so some questions regarding the definition:
>> 1) What would be considered an artificial body?
>> 2) I am 99.9% sure that the word "itself" refers to the meteorite (as
>> opposed to the body on which the meteorite lands). Correct?
>>
>> Mendy Ouzillou
>>
>>
>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Jeff Grossman <jngrossman at gmail.com>
>>> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2014 10:38 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, Alan and I would call this object a real meteorite, but not
>>> tektites, which never escaped from Earth's gravity well.
>>>
>>> It's a bit of a stretch and model dependent, but in a way, lunar
>>> meteorites may be considered as this type of meteorite.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>> On 4/8/2014 7:18 AM, Peter Scherff wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> According to Alan E. Rubin & Jeffrey N. Grossman: "A meteorite
>>>> is a natural, solid object larger than 10 ?m in size, derived from
>>>> a celestial body, that was transported by natural means from the
>>>> body on which it formed to a region outside the dominant
>>>> gravitational influence of that body and that later collided with a
>>>> natural or artificial body larger than itself (even if it was the
>>>> same body from which it was launched)." Using that definition I
>>>> would say that your rock should be called a meteorite. I also think
>>>> that a cool name for a new class of meteorites would need to be
>>>> created. I just hope that we could have that class created before 5
>>>> examples of it were recognized.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
>>>> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of
>>>> Mark Ford
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 3:28 AM
>>>> To: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite
>>>>
>>>> IMHO - This should most likely be called 'Earthite'. A whole new
>>>> class of rocks distinct from meteorites, which so far we don't have
>>>> any of (unless anyone knows different!?).
>>>>
>>>> Or they could just be known as Tektites, since that is
>>>> essentially what the consensus is on Tektites. Though I would put
>>>> Tektites in the group of Ancient impact glasses rather than actual
>>>> fusion crusted rocks from earth.
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>>> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of
>>>> Chris
>>>> Sent: 08 April 2014 06:15
>>>> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite
>>>>
>>>> Suppose a fusion crusted stone is found shortly after a fireball.
>>>> When examined it shows a celestial age of a few million years and a
>>>> relatively short formation age. More examination shows it to be a
>>>> stone formed on earth, ejected into space and returned here. Is it
>>>> meteorite or a meteorwrong. Or something in between?
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