[meteorite-list] Possible Ancient Meteorite

From: cdtucson at cox.net <*cdtucson_at_meteoritecentral.com*> Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 10:10:15 -0400 Message-ID: <20130914101015.Q13XO.98838.imail_at_fed1rmwml106> · cdtucson_at_meteoritecentral.com

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Cheers
---- wahlperry at aol.com wrote: 
> Hi All,
> 
> This looks like something Proud Tom would have done! I agree with Jason 
> that the pottery looks mismatched. It is hard to tell but I would bet 
> the stone is not even a meteorite. I doubt that many Archeologists 
> would glue a pot together this way. I was not able to pull up any 
> history online (from a couple reliable sources) on his name either. It 
> seems if he lives in Phoenix that he would be well aware of ASU and 
> UofA as sources of information.
> 
> Sonny
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Utas <meteoritekid at gmail.com>
> To: Anne Black <impactika at aol.com>
> Cc: Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Fri, Sep 13, 2013 12:24 am
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Possible Ancient Meteorite
> 
> 
> Hello Roman, All,I'm no expert, but...The vertical view of the vessel 
> is triangular because the potteryfragments of the lower portion came 
>  from a much larger vessel --probably a bowl or two-handled vessel of 
> some sort, given its apparentdiameter and the thickness of some of the 
> fragments.  The glazed anddelicately-formed lip and neck appear to be 
>  from a completelydifferent vase -- a nice one, at that.  The handle is 
> a bit odd, notsure about it.The first question that came to mind after 
> seeing the images is "Whywould anyone glue pieces of a large pot 
> together in the form of a muchsmaller one?"Upon closer inspection, I 
> began to wonder why an archaeologist wouldglue mismatched pieces of 
> glass or glazed pottery, painted and scoredterracotta, and other 
> ceramics of greatly differing thicknessestogether into a triangular 
> shape that (crudely) mimics an amphora'sshape...albeit with one 
> handle.I'm surprised that anyone carbon-dated the site, given that 
> thepottery and details of other artifacts are often deemed suitable 
> fordating purposes.I had too many questions after reading the provided 
> description.Sure, pass the fellow along to an expert...JasonOn Thu, Sep 
> 12, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Anne Black <impactika at aol.com> wrote:> Hello 
> Roman,>> It is really quite simple.> Since he is in Phoenix AZ, he 
> should go straight to Arizona State University> (ASU) they have an 
> archaeology department and some of the top meteorite> experts.> Perfect 
> place to get answers to all his questions.>>> Anne M. Black> 
> www.IMPACTIKA.com> IMPACTIKA at aol.com>>>> -----Original Message-----> 
>  From: Roman Jirasek <rj at meteoritelabels.com>> To: meteorite-list 
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>> Sent: Thu, Sep 12, 2013 8:00 pm> 
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Possible Ancient Meteorite>>> I had an 
> archaeologist email me today asking about custom labels, and also> if I 
> could help with identifying a possible ancient meteorite he found this> 
> year.>> I received permission to send this question to my fellow 
> colleagues which> may> have more insight into this topic. Read below, 
> or click on link to see his> photos...> 
> http://www.meteoritelabels.com/Ancient.htm>> Cheers,> Roman Jirasek> 
> www.meteoritelabels.com>> Copied email follows....>> I am an 
> Archaeologist and recovered a meteorite in 2013, on private> property 
> in Sparta Greece. This meteorite was found inside an ancient vase,> and 
> was buried with human remains. We dated this site to approximately, 
> 220> BCE to 130 BCE, but have not yet carbon dated the item.>> I do not 
> know of any meteorite falling on or near Sparta Greece.  Since the> 
> meteorite was found inside an honorary vase, we suspect it was held in 
> high> regards, and more than likely to remember a battle.>> The only 
> battle recorded that had a meteorite that fell during the battle;> was 
> with ancient Turkey and the Spartans.>> It actually stopped the battle 
> for two days, thinking it was a sign from the> gods. Many of the 
> Spartans recovered portions of the meteorite is a sign of> victory from 
> the God of Mars.>> I have enclosed a picture of the meteorite. Can you 
> tell me? Of any> meteorites that fell prior to 220 BCE, since we know 
> that was the earliest> date, since the meteorites was buried with the 
> hoplite soldier.  We assume> the meteorite obviously fell before that 
> date.>> This would help us, with dating the find.>> Additionally  what 
> would the selling price be if it were to be sold. The> meteorite?>> 
> Thank you>> Douglas Roth.> Phoenix, Arizona.> Sparta archaeology.>> 
> Yes, it is fine to forward the info and pics.>> I don't have any dir 
> links, but can be found, on face book for Douglas> Rothman Scottsdale, 
> or ancient history on face book for archeology travel> and tours.>> 
> Douglas Rothman.>>>>>> ______________________________________________>> 
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