[meteorite-list] NASA websites taken down for Governmentshutdown

From: Stuart McDaniel <actionshooting_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 22:19:30 -0400
Message-ID: <C33718A3CF4242B7A1F54E4FD84A67E2_at_SMcDellLaptop>

So Blue Cross and Blue Shields is not crappy insurance, and my friend just
got a notice his premium is going from $270.00/mth to 740.00/mth on Jan 1.

How is that helping??

I guess the non-GOP like taking it in the rear!!




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-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Farmer
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 9:08 PM
To: Adam Hupe
Cc: Adam
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NASA websites taken down for
Governmentshutdown

A foreigner hitting your car has nothing to do with Obama. Pretty sure it
happens worldwide.
$10,000 deductible on $900 month insurance, that is some crappy insurance.

Michael Farmer

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 2, 2013, at 6:02 PM, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> wrote:

> No U.S. citizen voted directly on this horrible package (massive tax
> increase)! They were lied to thinking it was Affordable for some reason.
>
>
> The good companies are
> dropping policies like flies. A $10,000.00 deductible on $920.00/month
> health insurance that local doctors don't even recognize. Give me a
> break! How is this helping?
>
>
> As it stands now, every U.S. Citizen is forced to buy, in most cases,
> substandard insurance! If you are not a U.S. Citizen, then there is no
> need to purchase any insurance even while living in the U.S. Talk to my
> wife who's car was hit by a non-U.S. citizen with no insurance and ask how
> she feels. We had to pay for the repairs ourselves. How is this fair?
> It is a poorly thought out nightmare, a train-wreck in the making for
> sure.
>
>
> I think the price of meteorites will just have to go up.
>
>
> Stupid is as Stupid Does for sure,
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
> To: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
> Cc: Adam <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 5:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NASA websites taken down for Government
> shutdown
>
> We did vote on it, it was called the 2012 presidential election.
> The entire election was ran on Obamacare. Romney promised to kill it on
> day one. Romney lost decisively.
> We voted.
> The losers just haven't accepted the fact that they lost. The current
> shutdown is the result of a losing party throwing a temper tantrum. It
> won't end well for them.
> Let's just talk meteorites here, though the shutdown does affect
> meteorites in many ways.
> Facebook is the better place for politics.
> Michael Farmer
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 2, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> My 10-minute rant since all of this government shutdown business is being
>> postured about!
>>
>>
>> As it stands now, well
>> over half my income is paid in taxes meaning that for every dollar in
>> profit I make on a
>> meteorite, over 50 cents goes to taxes of one sort or another. I find
>> this
>> outrageous! I think it should be a flat 28% across the board with a one
>> page return so that the 90,000 furloughed IRS agents can find something
>> better to
>> do than manage all of these new taxes hidden in a Healthcare Law that
>> nobody voted on. Citizens in their right mind would have never voted
>> for this massive tax increase in the middle of a great depression. Yes
>> it is a depression, the food lines don't exist because half the
>> population is quietly on food stamps or some other entitlement (handout)
>> hiding the real issues and enslaving them to the government.
>>
>> Yes, under the current political leadership (if you can call it that),
>> hard work will get you nothing after all of the new taxes that were
>> forced on us are paid.
>>
>> I see in the future a single wide trailer and poor health care for those
>> who completely depend on the government handouts or Social Security to
>> take care of them when they retire. I looked at the insurance exchange
>> and was appalled that no brand name insurance companies were listed on
>> it. It seems the good companies don't want to offer private insurance
>> anymore. 401K's, not the government, might pull you slightly ahead for
>> retirement if all of the businesses haven't moved to China by the time
>> you are ready to retire.
>>
>> Everybody I know is getting needed surgeries out of the way now,
>> including myself, before this health care
>> train-wreck hits. Casinos and big businesses here have already shifted
>> most of their employees to part-time. Over half the people I know have
>> lost their houses, down-sized their lifestyles and are in near poverty.
>>
>> What does all of this have to do with meteorites? Dealers have to pay
>> these taxes and are getting squeezed from all sides. I have worked for
>> myself since 1989 and this is the most hostile business environment
>> imaginable.
>>
>> So much for the fake Green Energy program proposed by the current
>> administration. This was one of the high points but turned out to be
>> just more political posturing like everything else these days.
>>
>> I think all polititians should be required to take business courses, even
>> Business 101 would be helpful! Most of them have fake degrees (purchased
>> online) to begin with so I don't see them enrolling in any post graduate
>> courses anytime soon.
>>
>> Adam
>> .
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "hall at meteorhall.com" <hall at meteorhall.com>
>> To: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
>> Cc: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>; Adam
>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 4:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NASA websites taken down for Government
>> shutdown
>>
>> Come on MikeG, you know that is not true. Your odds of making money go
>> way
>> up with hard work, but hard work is no guarantee of becoming wealthy. An
>> enjoyable book to read is "LIFE THE ODDS (And How To Improve Them) by
>> Gregory Baer.
>> My life has been made more enjoyable by collecting and learning about
>> meteorites. Someday, when I sell my collection, I may do well by it, IF
>> I don't die first. No matter, it has been an enjoyable pastime, along
>> with chess and mineral collecting and sports and women and my four
>> children. Yes, meteorites and science are a wonderful slice of life.
>> So is hard work, no matter the outcome.
>> Fred Hall
>>
>>> "What ever happened to be rewarded for hard work? "
>>>
>>> It's a myth that hasn't existed for at least 30-40 years.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> MikeG
>>>
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>>>> On 10/1/13, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is all political posturing for maximum effect. Our "Commander With
>>>> A
>>>> Few
>>>> Real Teeth" is an expert at it as are most politicians, regardless of
>>>> party,
>>>> who forget that they are supposed to be working for the people.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps we can all learn from this new style of governing. I will soon
>>>> have
>>>> to go completely to fixed pricing on eBay in order to pay for the 101%
>>>> increase in my monthly health care insurance and all of the new taxes
>>>> that
>>>> are going into affect on January 1st. So much for affordable
>>>> healthcare!
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps they should shut down 50% of the government permanently and use
>>>> the
>>>> funds to pay healthcare costs that politicians are exempt from.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> These new taxes hidden in a healthcare bill will have an effect on
>>>> meteorites sales.
>>>>
>>>> What ever happened to be rewarded for hard work?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Go figure,
>>>>
>>>> Adam
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Jodie Reynolds <spacerocks at spaceballoon.org>
>>>> To: Meteorite Mailing List <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 11:01 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NASA websites taken down for
>>>> Government shutdown
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hundreds of billions in sunk-cost and they have less than 12 hours of
>>>> burn on their bandwidth bill?
>>>>
>>>> My investors would lynch me, and no jury in the world would convict
>>>> them...
>>>>
>>>> Of course, I have to have an approved budget every year or I'll get
>>>> fired and the government will lock me up.
>>>>
>>>> Must be nice!
>>>>
>>>> --- Jodie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tuesday, October 1, 2013, 9:07:41 AM, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>> It looks like the NASA website has been taken down for the shutdown:
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.nasa.gov
>>>>
>>>>> "Due to the lapse in federal government funding, this website is not
>>>>> available.
>>>>> We sincerely regret this inconvenience."
>>>>
>>>>> The NEO website at JPL is not affected by this.
>>>>
>>>>> Ron
>>>>
>>>>
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