[meteorite-list] NASA websites taken down for Government shutdown

From: Michael Farmer <mike_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 17:49:28 -0700
Message-ID: <7EB0FC87-633C-4501-A2CA-89FEF93ECD13_at_meteoriteguy.com>

We did vote on it, it was called the 2012 presidential election.
The entire election was ran on Obamacare. Romney promised to kill it on day one. Romney lost decisively.
We voted.
The losers just haven't accepted the fact that they lost. The current shutdown is the result of a losing party throwing a temper tantrum. It won't end well for them.
Let's just talk meteorites here, though the shutdown does affect meteorites in many ways.
Facebook is the better place for politics.
Michael Farmer

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> On Oct 2, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> My 10-minute rant since all of this government shutdown business is being postured about!
>
>
> As it stands now, well
> over half my income is paid in taxes meaning that for every dollar in profit I make on a
> meteorite, over 50 cents goes to taxes of one sort or another. I find this
> outrageous! I think it should be a flat 28% across the board with a one page return so that the 90,000 furloughed IRS agents can find something better to
> do than manage all of these new taxes hidden in a Healthcare Law that
> nobody voted on. Citizens in their right mind would have never voted
> for this massive tax increase in the middle of a great depression. Yes
> it is a depression, the food lines don't exist because half the
> population is quietly on food stamps or some other entitlement (handout) hiding the real issues and enslaving them to the government.
>
> Yes, under the current political leadership (if you can call it that), hard work will get you nothing after all of the new taxes that were forced on us are paid.
>
> I see in the future a single wide trailer and poor health care for those who completely depend on the government handouts or Social Security to take care of them when they retire. I looked at the insurance exchange and was appalled that no brand name insurance companies were listed on it. It seems the good companies don't want to offer private insurance anymore. 401K's, not the government, might pull you slightly ahead for retirement if all of the businesses haven't moved to China by the time you are ready to retire.
>
> Everybody I know is getting needed surgeries out of the way now, including myself, before this health care
> train-wreck hits. Casinos and big businesses here have already shifted most of their employees to part-time. Over half the people I know have lost their houses, down-sized their lifestyles and are in near poverty.
>
> What does all of this have to do with meteorites? Dealers have to pay these taxes and are getting squeezed from all sides. I have worked for myself since 1989 and this is the most hostile business environment imaginable.
>
> So much for the fake Green Energy program proposed by the current administration. This was one of the high points but turned out to be just more political posturing like everything else these days.
>
> I think all polititians should be required to take business courses, even Business 101 would be helpful! Most of them have fake degrees (purchased online) to begin with so I don't see them enrolling in any post graduate courses anytime soon.
>
> Adam
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "hall at meteorhall.com" <hall at meteorhall.com>
> To: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
> Cc: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>; Adam <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 4:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NASA websites taken down for Government shutdown
>
> Come on MikeG, you know that is not true. Your odds of making money go way
> up with hard work, but hard work is no guarantee of becoming wealthy. An
> enjoyable book to read is "LIFE THE ODDS (And How To Improve Them) by
> Gregory Baer.
> My life has been made more enjoyable by collecting and learning about
> meteorites. Someday, when I sell my collection, I may do well by it, IF
> I don't die first. No matter, it has been an enjoyable pastime, along
> with chess and mineral collecting and sports and women and my four
> children. Yes, meteorites and science are a wonderful slice of life.
> So is hard work, no matter the outcome.
> Fred Hall
>
>> "What ever happened to be rewarded for hard work? "
>>
>> It's a myth that hasn't existed for at least 30-40 years.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> MikeG
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>>> On 10/1/13, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> It is all political posturing for maximum effect. Our "Commander With A
>>> Few
>>> Real Teeth" is an expert at it as are most politicians, regardless of
>>> party,
>>> who forget that they are supposed to be working for the people.
>>>
>>> Perhaps we can all learn from this new style of governing. I will soon
>>> have
>>> to go completely to fixed pricing on eBay in order to pay for the 101%
>>> increase in my monthly health care insurance and all of the new taxes
>>> that
>>> are going into affect on January 1st. So much for affordable
>>> healthcare!
>>>
>>> Perhaps they should shut down 50% of the government permanently and use
>>> the
>>> funds to pay healthcare costs that politicians are exempt from.
>>>
>>>
>>> These new taxes hidden in a healthcare bill will have an effect on
>>> meteorites sales.
>>>
>>> What ever happened to be rewarded for hard work?
>>>
>>>
>>> Go figure,
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Jodie Reynolds <spacerocks at spaceballoon.org>
>>> To: Meteorite Mailing List <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 11:01 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NASA websites taken down for
>>> Government shutdown
>>>
>>>
>>> Hundreds of billions in sunk-cost and they have less than 12 hours of
>>> burn on their bandwidth bill?
>>>
>>> My investors would lynch me, and no jury in the world would convict
>>> them...
>>>
>>> Of course, I have to have an approved budget every year or I'll get
>>> fired and the government will lock me up.
>>>
>>> Must be nice!
>>>
>>> --- Jodie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tuesday, October 1, 2013, 9:07:41 AM, you wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>> It looks like the NASA website has been taken down for the shutdown:
>>>
>>>> http://www.nasa.gov
>>>
>>>> "Due to the lapse in federal government funding, this website is not
>>>> available.
>>>> We sincerely regret this inconvenience."
>>>
>>>> The NEO website at JPL is not affected by this.
>>>
>>>> Ron
>>>
>>>
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