[meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction

From: Shawn Alan <photophlow_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 18:47:42 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <1369273662.72977.YahooMailNeo_at_web162602.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Hello Everyone,

I would agree Martin, about the Moon being more romantic compared to the Red planet, were people?think of green little men LOL. But when it comes to Lunar samples,?all I need is one, just the best looking sample that represents what a lunar meteorite would look like. I would?say Dag 400, Dag??262 , NWA 500 and a couple other Lunar samples are key meteorite that have an ideal representation of what a Lunar meteorite look s like. But, there are other samples that are just as good, but at what cost!!!!!!

But what I can say is, you better watch out when we find the first Lunar meteorite in USA or the first Lunar meteorite fall. That meteorite will be untouchable price, depending on how much is found or recovered. I am just hoping it will happen while I am still young or before I die lol. But again I probably couldn't afford it and would have to wait till I was about to die to buy some.
?Shawn Alan
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From: Martin Altmann <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>
To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction


Hi boyz,

maybe my old price guide of the season 2000/2001 is helpful?
I compiled it then from 92 offerers from the web and from snail-mail offers.

It's inflation adjusted for the year 2011.

You find it in the German forum (you don't have to be a member or logged in,
to use the Price guide)
http://www.jgr-apolda.eu/index.php?topic=6912.0


The lines read as follows:

Meteorite Name - Type today - average price/g? (lowest-highest) - number of
offerers.
*=fall? ? ? ? ???(then)


Let me search the Martians....


DaG 476? ? ? ? ???SHER? ? ? ? ? 1733$/g? ? ? ???( 457 - 3712 )? ? 13

DaG 489? ? ? ? ???SHER? ? ? ? ? 1014$/g? ? ? ???(550 - 1600)? ? ? 7

DaG 670? ? ? ? ???SHER? ? ? ? ? ? 715$/g? ? ? ???(512 -1024)? ? ???2

DaG 735? ? ? ? ???SHER? ? ? ? ???704$/g? ? ? ???(? ? 704? ???)? ? ???1

Dho 019? ? ? ? ???SHER? ? ? ? ? 1536$/g? ? ? ???( 512 - 2560)? ???1

Los Angeles 001? SHER? ? ? ? 5184$/g? ? ? ? (3200 - 7168)? ? ???2

Shergotty*? ? ???SHER? ? ? ???6400$/g? ? ? ? (? ???6400? ? )? ? ? ? 1

Zagami*? ? ? ? ???SHER? ? ? 1823.44$/g? ? ? ( 576 -10666)? ? ???12

Nakhla*? ? ? ? ? ? Nakhlit? ? ? 3653$/g? ? ? ? (1960 - 5760)? ? ???4

Lafayette? ? ? ???Nakhlit? ? ? 44965$/g? ? ???(29482-64000)? ? ???2

Governador Valadares? Nakhlit???46163$/g? (25078-80000)? ? ? 3

Chassigny*???Chassignite? ???87751$/g? ???(51200-126720)? ? ???3



And the Lunars:

Calcalong Creek LUN-M? ???273485$/g? ? ???(98970-448000)? ???1
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???(damals LUN-A)

DaG 262? ? ? ? ???LUN-A? ? ? ? 49400$/g? ? ? ? (38234-64000)? ? 3?

DaG 400? ? ? ? ???LUN-A? ? ? ? 24415$/g? ? ? (12800-32000)? ???8


And that was it.


Main reason for the difference there between Martians and Moonies, I assume,
is a relatively simple and unromantic one.

Zagami had a pretty large tkw.
And it took until into the second half of the 1980s until it was fully
established,
that the shergottites most probably stem from planet Mars.

Before, and I still remember it from the annual Munich shows, you could read
on the Zagami-labels
as type:? anomalous Eucrite.

And as eucrite one simply couldn't ask such exorbitant prices.
On the other hand, when the suspicion of the Martian origin became stalwart,
it simply would have been not possible to multiple the former price within
1-3 years with a factor of 500x .

Enjoy using the old Price Guide,
is always nice to see for me,
that the old laborious work from then,
is still sometimes good for something today.

Best!
Martin



-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Adam
Hupe
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. Mai 2013 20:55
An: Adam
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction

It is very simple.? There were only a couple of lunar meteorites available
at the time while there was several times the weight available in Martian
which has always been the case.? Collectors would be happy with a single
gram of Martian since one piece looked very similar to the next.? Lunar
breccias on the other hand, display many features so each piece was
different enough to create demand for multiple specimens per collection
instead of a single token piece.? The least expensive Lunaites of all time
came from Oman if you adjust the value of the dollar six years ago before it
lost most of its value.?? The supply has dwindled on the Omani lunar
meteorites so most have tripled in price.


NWA changed the landscape for both Lunar an Martian meteorites.? During this
depression, lunar material has remained nearly the same and held most of its
value while Martian offerings are still off peak.? A Martian fall for
$300.00/gram is a bargain.? On the other hand, a Lunar fall could run into
the tens of thousands per gram if we were ever lucky enough to witness one.


I have dealt more Martian and Lunar material than most dealers and see that
they both make good investments if purchased properly.? The entire
collectables market sector has been down the last six years and meteorites
have retained most of their long-term value unless emotional buying was in
play.

Ask any Moroccan what excites them more, a new Martian or a Lunar find? They
know they can get way more any lunar meteorite than Martian so the answer
will always be the same.? Lunar is king.


Adam




----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Catterton <star_wars_collector at yahoo.com>
To: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction

I dont disagree, lunar is my favorite but it makes me question... why has
Lunar meteorite value decreased from $25,000 a gram to $400 a gram or less -
in some cases as low as $200 a gram for one certain lunar meteorite?
Thats a loss in value of $24,600 or more in 14 years on lunar while Martian
has increased.
Perhaps Martian samples are on the way to becoming the new king?


Greg Catterton
http://www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com/
On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites


--- On Wed, 5/22/13, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At
> Auction
> To: "Adam" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Date: Wednesday, May 22, 2013, 2:15 PM Lunar is still king and always
> will be.? Lunar 14 years ago was over $25,000.00/gram for DAG pieces
> while Martian was only $60.00/gram for Zagami.
> Lunar material can be very striking while there is only one Martian
> breccia.
>
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Greg Catterton <star_wars_collector at yahoo.com>
> To: Adam <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>;
> Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
> Cc:
> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 11:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At
> Auction
>
> 1999 is also 14 years ago... back then lunar was $1500 a gram or more
> always. Today lunar can be had for less then $400 a gram. Times have
> changed.
>
> Greg Catterton
> http://www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com/
> On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
> On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites
>
>
> --- On Wed, 5/22/13, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > From: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch
> $160,000 At Auction
> > To: "Adam" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> > Date: Wednesday, May 22, 2013, 11:05 AM They stated that meteorites
> > from Mars tend to fetch more than most other meteorites.? This
> is in
> > direct disagreement with the Smithsonian Magazine
> article,
> > "Mining for Meteorites", 1999 which claims a dislodged
> piece
> > of the Moon is the most coveted of all.
> >
> > This still holds true today.?? I think most people,
> not
> > only collectors, relate more to the Moon because it can
> be
> > seen, has been romanticized since ancient times and
> most
> > lunar meteorites have magnitudes better aesthetic qualities.?
> > Interestingly enough, there is multiple
> times
> > more Martian meteorite material available by weight
> than
> > Lunar material.
> >
> >
> > Adam
> >
> > ?
> >
> > ?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Tom Randall <tommy2005 at hvc.rr.com>
> > To: Meteorite list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> >
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 5:08 AM
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch
> $160,000
> > At Auction
> >
> >
> > http://bit.ly/10Pfjwv
> >
> > Regards!
> >
> > Tom
> >
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