[meteorite-list] World Record Slice Produced By Marlin Cilz!

From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <*meteoritemike_at_meteoritecentral.com*> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 09:27:01 -0400 Message-ID: <CAKBPJW_Dp0LBnaC8_brW4ZGGhmc=Myg1sAd22BnpnGsKY5pkag_at_mail.gmail.com> · meteoritemike_at_meteoritecentral.com

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On 6/17/13, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Don't worry about it Jason.  It is not your concern.  Let the qualified
> record-tracking personal in England deal with it.
>
>
> A world record has been set and is locked in.. The slab from 61016 was only
> 20 mm thick and was cut into sections immediately for studying cosmic ray
> tracks.  The initial slab for NWA 5000 was more than twice as thick at 52mm.
> What don't you understand?
>
>
> I did my research, Now it is time for you to grow up and do your own
> research instead of commenting on things you now nothing about. Do you like
> to argue for the sake of arguing?  Please don't answer because I want no
> further communications with you!   I find it to be a complete waste of time
>
> Over and Out, Good Bye,
>
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jason Utas <meteoritekid at gmail.com>
> To: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
> Cc: Adam <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 7:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] World Record Slice Produced By Marlin Cilz!
>
> Hello Adam,
> Your statements confuse me.  At what point is a "slice" no longer a
> "slice," but a "slab," and at which point does later subdivision of a
> slice/slab render it not worthwhile to record the original
> slice/slab's weight for purposes of deeming it a record-breaking cut?
>
> It seems like you're using a very specific definition of "complete
> slice" to deem this a record-breaking event.  Though, not knowing the
> weight of the largest slice/slab of 61016 (or other lunar samples), I
> find such proclamations...odd.
>
> As to "who cares?" -- apparently you do, since you're making the claims.
>
> I'm all for publicity, but if one's going to make claims regarding
> quantitative numbers, one should be able to back them up -- and
> probably have the weights of the largest previously cut Apollo sample
> slices/slabs on hand to support it.  Eyeing a photo and saying "it
> looks like it weighs less" doesn't quite cut it.
>
> I can speak for Marlin's fine work, and have no doubt he did a fine
> job on the slices.  But that's beside the point.
>
> Regards,
> Jason
>
>
>
> www.fallsandfinds.com
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>> Jason,
>>
>>
>> I looked at the link and what you are calling a complete slice is a slab.
>> If we are going for the world record slab cut, then Marlin still has it.
>>
>> The largest slab cut from NWA 5000 was as follows:
>>
>> 3,538 grams
>> 238mm X 219mm X 52mm
>>
>> Of course, this slab was subdivided into five of the worlds largest Lunar
>> complete slices which was the intent from the beginning.  Just like NASA
>> always intended to subdivide the 61016 slab for testing.  I would estimate
>> the 61016 slab to be less than half the size and weight of the NWA 5000
>> slab that Marlin produced.
>>
>> Who cares?  Marlin did a wonderful preparation job and is to be commended
>> on a new world record!
>>
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Jason Utas <meteoritekid at gmail.com>
>> To: Greg Hup? <gmhupe at centurylink.net>
>> Cc: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike at gmail.com>; Adam Hupe
>> <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>; Meteorite-list
>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 3:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] World Record Slice Produced By Marlin Cilz!
>>
>> Hello All,
>> I hate to rain on the parade, but I'd do some research before making
>> 'record-breaking' claims.
>>
>> http://curator.jsc.nasa.gov/lunar/lsc/61016.pdf
>>
>> I don't know how much the largest slabs of Apollo material weigh(ed),
>> but they were/are sizable.  And I don't even know if the huge slabs in
>> the above document were/are the largest they cut.
>>
>> This isn't my project, so I don't feel particularly inclined to ask
>> NASA how large their largest slices of lunar material weigh(ed).
>>
>> Either way the old record probably goes to NASA. Marlin could hold a
>> new record having cut a 1.1 kg slice, but that's questionable given
>> the photos in the above article, if nothing else.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jason
>>
>>
>> www.fallsandfinds.com
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Greg Hup? <gmhupe at centurylink.net>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>> I am glad you asked for images of the Northwest Africa 5000 complete
>>> slices,
>>> here are a few to get you started and I can share more as time allows...
>>> http://www.naturesvault.net/meteorites/nwa5000.html
>>>
>>> The sequence of slices liberated from the original 11.528 kilo mass
>>> start
>>> with CS1 (the 'Ambassador' slice), then CS2, CS3, and so forth to CS6.
>>> The
>>> slice on today's Meteorite Picture of the Day is CS3. Side 'b' of each
>>> slice
>>> goes deeper into the mass and the surface area of the slices become even
>>> larger than the previous slice.
>>>
>>> The 483.89 gram 'Mona Lisa of Moon Rocks' slice will start its world tour
>>> at
>>> the 2013 Ensisheim Show this Friday and continue on to the Sainte Marie
>>> aux
>>> Mines show if it is still available. I will also be bringing a selection
>>> of
>>> smaller slices that are gorgeous!
>>>
>>> If you are going to the Ensisheim Show, or are still contemplating it,
>>> this
>>> complete slice of NWA 5000 looks incredibly better in person as attempts
>>> to
>>> capture its beauty by mere photos are very difficult.
>>>
>>> I hope to see you all there!
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Greg
>>>
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>>> -----Original Message----- From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks
>>> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 5:06 PM
>>> To: Adam Hupe
>>> Cc: Adam
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] World Record Slice Produced By Marlin
>>> Cilz!
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Adam,
>>>
>>> I think I speak for many on the List when I say this :
>>>
>>> PHOTOS!  And LOTS of them.  Every angle.  High-res.  Close-ups of
>>> interesting clasts.  Inquiring minds wanna see eye candy.  :)
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> MikeG
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>>> On 6/17/13, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A big congratulations should go out to Marlin Cilz who prepared five
>>>> new
>>>> NWA
>>>> 5000 complete slices.  He broke a world record which I previously held
>>>> for
>>>> 5-1/2 years for preparing the single complete slice known as the
>>>> "Ambassador."  I never disclosed the record while I held it but it is
>>>> for
>>>> producing the world's largest Moon rock slice.  It is doubtful that
>>>> anybody
>>>> will break Marlin's new record anytime soon,
>>>>
>>>> The record.is:
>>>>
>>>> NWA 5000 Complete Slice:
>>>> 1,116.78 grams - 238mm X 218mm X 14mm
>>>>
>>>> My brother, Greg and I would have never had Marlin produce a slice this
>>>> big
>>>> hadn't it been for a custom order.
>>>>
>>>> Marlin did a world class job of preparing these slices and I wanted to
>>>> thank
>>>> him publicly.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Adam Hupe
>>>> The Hupe Planetary Collection
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: "valparint at aol.com" <valparint at aol.com>
>>>> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 12:00 AM
>>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: NWA 5000
>>>>
>>>> Contributed by: Greg and Adam Hupe
>>>>
>>>> http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp
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