[meteorite-list] what is a... OT

From: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 07:48:03 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <1370184483.84561.YahooMailNeo_at_web122004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Raspberry Tony sounds like a good definition for an invasive species that ruins it for honest species trying to eek out a living.? Maybe in this case, we should call it an "evasive" species since we are not getting straight answers. ?

It reminds me of an invasive species called a Quagga Mussel (small clams) living here in Lake Mojave.? They clog up pipes, ruin boat motors and are just plain bad news.? They feel they are entitled to live in our lakes for free and cause destruction even though they were not invited. They have even been known to piggy back off one another: a filthy trait they are well-know for.? Next these clams will be demanding entitlements, continue to self-pair and substitute garbage for the real thing; All in the name of making more clams!.?

Definition

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quagga_mussel
?
Pure stupidity and greed.? ... and for some reason, we all put up with it and what cost? The undermining of collector confidence.

Adam



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From: Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
To: Martin Altmann <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>
Cc: "<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2013 5:47 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] what is a...??OT


Amazing long and perfect description of
A long forgotten word.
Sadly you seem not to have the time to answer a couple of simple questions regarding the non-meteorite you sold me.
I took it to a meteorite club meeting yesterday for many people to enjoy, 100% agree it is not even a meteorite.
Can you use that amazing power of gab you have Martin, and simply let us know how you decided to make me your "Raspberry Toni"? You never answered one question asked you about the fake meteorite, fake labels, fake Murchison. You only made references to me carrying around baggies of meteorites in the old days (not sure what that has to do with receipt of a fake meteorite from you). Sorry, I wasn't born a millionaire and had to work to make myself one. It took some time.

You make reference to a mistake I made in clearly shipping the wrong specimen some years ago, again sorted out and quickly corrected without? character attack on the victim by me, mistake admitted and rectified easily.

You refuse to even acknowledge that sending fake produced plastic label is FRUAD when your add clearly states that they are real AML pieces.

I just wanted some answers to these questions, instead got a rambling bunch of nonsense that does nothing but divert and dilute from the bottom line of suspect or outright fake meteorite sold to me by you.

If you would simply put all that energy to letting me know how such imitations were able to pass your very experiences hands, this would already be forgotten. Instead all I got is how wrong and stupid I am compared to you, you are of course always right because this came from some old Romanian collection? Well, since Romania is well known as the "Nigeria of Europe" for scams, I guess this could also be a Romanian scam meteorite.
Sorry, this "Rapsberry Toni" is offended, and angry at receipt of a fake piece of garbage.
Perhaps I'll send it up to ASU for lab work to see what exactly you sold me. They have Estherville from Nininger as well.
Michael Farmer

On Jun 2, 2013, at 4:48 AM, "Martin Altmann" <altmann at meteorite-martin.de> wrote:

> Hi Paul,
>
> Raspberry Tony (Himbeertoni) is a jesting and cuss word of the
> Austro-Bavarian language.
> The etymology is absolutely unclear, neither old references are found.
> Schmeller's Bavarian dictionary of 1827 doesn't know him yet.
>
> A Raspberry Tony is a person of very limited intellect, that is so
> excessively good-natured, that he put up with everything and is easy to
> short-change.
>
> There are in my opinion three possibilities of the origin:
>
> Either it's a literary character (of a forgotten piece),
>
> or it's the characterization by profession - somebody who is of such an
> imbecility, that he can earn his living only by collecting and selling
> raspberries,
>
> or it's a humorous derivation from the Strawberry George (often appearing as
> the boon companion of the Raspberry Tony).
> The Strawberry George in turn is a mishearing of the "archbishop", In German
> "Erzbischof" which sounds similar to "Erbeerschorsch".? ("Erdbeer(e)"
> ("Ground"berry) is the Strawberry, "Schorsch" is the Bavarian form of
> George).
>
>
> Best!
> Martin
>
>
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Paul
> Gessler
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 2. Juni 2013 06:04
> An: meteorite-list
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] what is a...
>
> Can someone please tell me what a "Raspberry Tony" is?????
>
> Thanx
>
> Paul Gessler
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