[meteorite-list] Fw: Contracts Curry

From: Michael Bross <element33_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 03:12:08 +0200
Message-ID: <F2C33AA5FF4D4F02B411AA3FA593E7B5_at_DaDaPC>

it is your way of thinking... not mine
especially because this forum has been much less on meteorites
since Fb and other social networks seem to drag the traffic...
and I will never go to these massroads

I love meteorites for what they are.
I am not a collector, but happy to have some Campo del Ceilo
a Seshuan but no gorgeous pallasite...

And I enjoy others sharing here on this worldwide forum,
like the sinkholes from Paul H.

All the best
Michael B.



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From: "Michael Farmer" <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 2:57 AM
To: "Michael Bross" <element33 at peconic.net>
Cc: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>; "Adam"
<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Contracts Curry

> In no way shape or form does speed cameras or privacy rules etc belong on
> this list. Nothing in these emails was about meteorites.
>
>
> Michael Farmer
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 25, 2013, at 5:33 PM, "Michael Bross" <element33 at peconic.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi List
>>
>> Thank you Adam for your posts and links
>> I love the one with your soulmate waving to the camera.
>>
>> I am French, lived many years in NYC and the East.
>> Now with a "pied-a-terre" in Obernai, near Strasbourg in France.
>>
>> In France, the speed radars are almost only placed to milk money, as you
>> sadly said
>> for Colorado. (not to get the real "road dogs")
>>
>> Michael (Farmer), I also understand your point as this being of topic...
>> but is it so ? when we look at the lengthy interesting posts about BLM
>> rules,
>> the meteorite market etc... this goes in the same range of looking at our
>> world today
>>
>> Like Adam rightfully said... the freedom of privacy has gone
>> and I am very sad to hear that about USA !
>>
>> Anyway...
>> In France, you can be on a road late at night with nobody around for
>> miles and time... and being flashed by a radar because you are a couple
>> miles
>> over the "limit", between quotes, because being at 80 or 100 miles an
>> hour
>> in SUCH circumstances... doesn't matter at all. (we are talking about
>> being
>> on a multiple lane freeway/ Autobahn with barely any other car or truck
>> around)
>>
>> In Germany, they have radars...BUT you have a margin of 05-10 kms in town
>> and 20-30 on Autobahn
>> btw, when I go to NYC, nobody is at the speed limit of 55 miles/hour
>> but more in the 65-70 range... the troopers onl sort out the ones really
>> off limits...
>>
>> So, I agree with Adam with all the points he made.
>> Socially responsible... YES
>> But... please no not-human eye to estimate a situation as it should be...
>>
>> Au revoir
>> Michael B.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
>> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 12:18 AM
>> To: "Adam" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Contracts Curry
>>
>>> There are some people headed to Hollbrook through Kingman this weekend.
>>> Just wanted to give them a heads up on unfair ticketing going on.
>>> Somebody else posted the Curry contact which complained about unfair
>>> traffic violation citations. It is pretty bad when some cops are too
>>> lazy hand out tickets in person and depend on cameras to do the job. I
>>> have seen mobile camera trucks with 20 foot booms in Arizona waiting
>>> around blind corners on the freeway just to ruin somebody's day who may
>>> be going a few miles over the limit! It is pretty bad when you can
>>> retrace your road trip 3 months later just by accessing the data on
>>> traffic cams.
>>>
>>> What ever happened to chasing speeders down and giving them a ticket
>>> face to face so you can al least see who your accuser is and argue with
>>> them if they are wrong?
>>>
>>> To me, all this data collecting (spying) on every single person in the
>>> United States and those in other countries reflects poorly on those
>>> currently in office who are abusing this new-found power. They need to
>>> be ousted! What ever happened to warrants and probable cause? Our
>>> freedom of privacy is at stake!
>>>
>>> What next, a toilet cam with a weight monitor under the seat, a DNA
>>> sampler and a butt recognition system?
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
>>> To: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
>>> Cc: Adam <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 1:10 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Contracts Curry
>>>
>>> Why is this on the list?
>>> Michael Farner
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jul 25, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> There are thousands of cameras in place in Arizona, some of which will
>>>> still issue thousands of tickets per camera per year. They are called
>>>> traffic cams and they will still capture your every move and store this
>>>> data for an undetermined period of time. The cameras have OCR meaning
>>>> they can read your license plate numbers. This gives them the ability
>>>> to retrace your every move if needed in court.
>>>>
>>>> The freedom of privacy is long gone!
>>>>
>>>> Adam
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Michael Mulgrew <mikestang at gmail.com>
>>>> To: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
>>>> Cc: Meteorite List <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 10:11 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Contracts Curry
>>>>
>>>> One of thousands of cameras? Might be a bit of an overstatement.
>>>> According to an article written in 2010 (after the state stopped the
>>>> photo speed enforcement program), only a few local jurisdictions still
>>>> use them.
>>>>
>>>> "This is much more limited in scale and scope," [Matthew Benson, a
>>>> spokesman for the Governor's Office] said. "You've only got (eight)
>>>> instances of this throughout the state."
>>>> http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/state/some-arizona-cities-still-using-speed-cameras-after-program-was-ended-by-gov-jan-brewer
>>>>
>>>> Michael in so. Cal.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:44 AM, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> It is interesting that our friend is speaking of traffic stops.
>>>>> Luckily for us, ED or Electronic D.N.A. is on the job 24 hours a day
>>>>> 365 days a year. Here are some images of my wife I with a Nevada State
>>>>> Patrol in hot pursuit. She had the ticket printed before we were even
>>>>> stopped as witnessed on camera. In Arizona, they will just send you a
>>>>> ticket in the mail if one of the thousands of cameras tracks you
>>>>> speeding.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Image of Nevada State Patrol in hot pursuit:
>>>>> http://themeteoritesite.com/adam/TrafficCam-a.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> Ticket already printed before stop:
>>>>> http://themeteoritesite.com/adam/TrafficCam-b.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> Sate Patrol officer looks pretty huffed, see you in court:
>>>>> http://themeteoritesite.com/adam/TrafficCam-c.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> Excuses like my throttle was stuck, my foot fell asleep or my tennis
>>>>> shoe is made out cement will not fly in court these days since ED
>>>>> doesn't lie. Tell the truth and you may get off with a parking meter
>>>>> violation even though there are no parking meters here in Laughlin,
>>>>> Nevada.
>>>>>
>>>>> Be careful on these long meteorite hunting road trips if you do not
>>>>> want see a ticket in the mail or worse yet a trooper who has the look
>>>>> of glee on their face when they pull you over!
>>>>>
>>>>> Adam
>>>>>
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