[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

From: Richard Montgomery <rickmont_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 14:40:55 -0800
Message-ID: <39EF1FA273544E10AD924A81FFB8A184_at_bosoheadPC>

Ah-ha! Now I know what Greg's black page was.....the unobsevered un-fallen
non-fall


----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Hup?" <gmhupe at centurylink.net>
To: <hall at meteorhall.com>; <mike at meteoriteguy.com>; "Anne Black"
<impactika at aol.com>
Cc: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>; <valparint at aol.com>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day


Yes, of course all meteorites fell on Earth therefore they are 'falls'! When
many people are infected with this extended 'fall' flu, the best medicine
for a cure can only be administered by humor...

Dr. Greg is in the house! ;-)

Best Regards,
Greg

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-----Original Message-----
From: Anne Black
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 8:27 PM
To: hall at meteorhall.com ; mike at meteoriteguy.com
Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com ; valparint at aol.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

Every single meteorite ever found on Earth is necessarily the result of
a fall, they are not native to Earth. The only difference is that some
falls are seen, witnessed, and some, the vast majoriry, are not.

So calling them Observed or Unobserved falls is logical. That is what
happened to all of them.
That is simple reality.


Anne M. Black
www.IMPACTIKA.com
IMPACTIKA at aol.com


-----Original Message-----
tFrom: hall <hall at meteorhall.com>
To: Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
Cc: meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>; valparint
<valparint at aol.com>
Sent: Fri, Jan 4, 2013 6:13 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day


   An "unobserved fall" is two words to describe the one word that has
been used for a century, "Find". The one word "Find" is good enough for
the Catalogue of Meteorites, it was good enough for Harvey Nininger,
and it is what I shall always use. Keep it concise.
Regards, Fred Hall



That would make sense for say New Orleans, where a stone went through a
> house and no one in their right mind would suggest that it did not
fall at
> that time say between 8 am and 4 pm when there was no hole in the
house,
> yet it was not seen to fall.
> An old rock found in a field does not suggest anything about fall
date. So
> it is a find, something never really argued against until now?
> It has crust which can suggest it is not thousands of years old, most
of
> our Springwater meteorites have black and blue crust but nevertheless
it
> is a find.
> Michael Farmer
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 4, 2013, at 10:28 AM, <valparint at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> An "unobserved fall" is, well, a fall that was not observed, in
>> contradistinction to a fall that was observed. The terminology of the
>> Meteoritical Bulletin Database is "Observed fall: no".
>>
>> The information being conveyed is NOT that the meteorite fell but
that
>> the fall was not observed.
>>
>> In general, the questions about falling and finding are:
>>
>> 1) was the fall observed?
>> 2) if so, when was it observed?
>> 3) if not, is there any guesstimate of when it fell?
>> 4) regardless of weather it was observed or not, when was it actually
>> found?
>>
>> Paul Swartz
>> MPOD webmaster
>>
>>> What is an "unobserved fall"? Every meteorite fell at some point. I
>>> have thousands of unobserved falls in my collection.
>>> Michael Farmer
>>>
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