[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day (suspended until further notice)

From: Jim Wooddell <nf114ec_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2013 19:12:55 -0700
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I dont often agree with Micheal Farmer, but when I do, I am drinking!
Stay thirsty my friends!



Jim Wooddell - Mobile

Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike at gmail.com> wrote:

>Attention : sales of all unobserved falls are hereby suspended until
>further notice. ;)
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>On 1/4/13, Mike Bandli <fuzzfoot at comcast.net> wrote:
>> If a meteorite falls from the sky and no one is there to hear it, does it
>> make a sound?
>>
>> ;^]
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
>> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of
>> hall at meteorhall.com
>> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 5:36 PM
>> To: Anne Black
>> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com; valparint at aol.com
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
>>
>> Right, Anne. That is why they are referred to as a "Fall" or a "Find".
>> Concise!
>> Cheers, Fred Hall
>>
>>> Every single meteorite ever found on Earth is necessarily the result
>>> of a fall, they are not native to Earth. The only difference is that
>>> some falls are seen, witnessed, and some, the vast majoriry, are not.
>>>
>>> So calling them Observed or Unobserved falls is logical. That is what
>>> happened to all of them.
>>> That is simple reality.
>>>
>>>
>>> Anne M. Black
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> tFrom: hall <hall at meteorhall.com>
>>> To: Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
>>> Cc: meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>; valparint
>>> <valparint at aol.com>
>>> Sent: Fri, Jan 4, 2013 6:13 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
>>>
>>>
>>> An "unobserved fall" is two words to describe the one word that has
>>> been used for a century, "Find". The one word "Find" is good enough
>>> for the Catalogue of Meteorites, it was good enough for Harvey
>>> Nininger, and it is what I shall always use. Keep it concise.
>>> Regards, Fred Hall
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That would make sense for say New Orleans, where a stone went through
>>> a
>>>> house and no one in their right mind would suggest that it did not
>>> fall at
>>>> that time say between 8 am and 4 pm when there was no hole in the
>>> house,
>>>> yet it was not seen to fall.
>>>> An old rock found in a field does not suggest anything about fall
>>> date. So
>>>> it is a find, something never really argued against until now?
>>>> It has crust which can suggest it is not thousands of years old, most
>>> of
>>>> our Springwater meteorites have black and blue crust but nevertheless
>>> it
>>>> is a find.
>>>> Michael Farmer
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 4, 2013, at 10:28 AM, <valparint at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> An "unobserved fall" is, well, a fall that was not observed, in
>>>>> contradistinction to a fall that was observed. The terminology of
>>>>> the Meteoritical Bulletin Database is "Observed fall: no".
>>>>>
>>>>> The information being conveyed is NOT that the meteorite fell but
>>> that
>>>>> the fall was not observed.
>>>>>
>>>>> In general, the questions about falling and finding are:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) was the fall observed?
>>>>> 2) if so, when was it observed?
>>>>> 3) if not, is there any guesstimate of when it fell?
>>>>> 4) regardless of weather it was observed or not, when was it
>>>>> actually found?
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul Swartz
>>>>> MPOD webmaster
>>>>>
>>>>>> What is an "unobserved fall"? Every meteorite fell at some point. I
>>>>>> have thousands of unobserved falls in my collection.
>>>>>> Michael Farmer
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