[meteorite-list] Poyet T-shirt (and French Fall)

From: Mike Bandli <fuzzfoot_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 10:14:45 -0800
Message-ID: <000001cde915$0bd9caa0$238d5fe0$_at_comcast.net>

I have always wondered what the original reference for Poyet's illustration
was and have been unable to find it through any of my resources. As Zelimir
mentioned, Nininger did not credit or reference Poyet's illustration, which
was used on the cover of "Find a Falling Star" (maybe we both missed it?). I
also checked every entry in Brown's bibliography of meteorites for
1882-1884, including Lespiault's and Forquignon's original report on the
fall at St. Caprais in the Comptes des Rendus (1883, V97, pp 1022-23), and
came up no reference for the illustration.

As others have suggested, the most likely event depicted is the St. Caprais
fall. This fall produced a daytime fireball, which would seem to be
consistent with Poyet's illustration. One will note that there are many
farmers about and the horse is saddled with the hay carriage. This would
seem to be an unlikely scene if it were nighttime, so I am assuming this is
a daytime depiction. Thoughts?

It is also possible that Poyet's illustration may have been published as a
stand-alone print. Either way, I am very interested in finding the original
reference or source for it! Keep hunting!

All the best,

Mike

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[mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Prof.
Zelimir Gabelica Universit? de Haute Alsace ENSCMu,
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 9:21 AM
To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] T-shirt (and French Fall)

Hello Bernd and all concerned,

Bernd, I read the original French fall report for "St.
Caprais-de-Quinsac" and the description indeed could correspond to the
painting.

When Werner asked the question, I was sure I had spotted in due time a print
of this painting in some book or pamphlet of my library where it might well
be some indication of the bolide (or fall place) name.
I went all through my numerous meteorite books but unfortunately, so far, I
could find nothing.

However, my copy of the well known Nininger's "Find a Falling Star"
has its dust jacket cover with the same painting reproduced.

I looked for details within the different editor's writings and also along
some chapters regarding this cover but could not even find mention of this
painting on cover.

The last edition of "Meteorites form A to Z" reports only 3 falls occurring
in 1883, with St. Caprais the only one from France.
So, for me, you had solved that enigma, unless someone can contradict this.

I second Twink and others' appreciations of your fascinating ability to
access various data and find reference for anything concerning meteorites
and related.
Bernd, you remain our invaluable Extra-encyclopedia!

To all, I renew my very sincere wishes for happiness, health and love (in
the order of your choice) for this New Year 2013.

Zelimir

--
Prof. Zelimir Gabelica
Universit? de Haute Alsace
ENSCMu, Lab. LPI-GSEC,
3, Rue A. Werner,
F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France
Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94
"Bernd V. Pauli" <bernd.pauli at paulinet.de> a ?crit?:
> Hello Bill, Werner "Down Under", Listees, Listoids,
>
> First of all: A happy, healthy, prosperous 2013 to all of you!
>
> Werner wrote:
>
> "It seems it doesn't relate to a specific fall
> since there was none in France in the year 1883."
>
> Maybe this one:
>
> St. Caprais-de-Quinsac (L6; gas-rich)
> After the appearance of a "black cloud" and
> detonations, a stone of 282.5 gr was seen to fall ...
>
> Gironde (France)
> Fell 1883, Jan 28, 14:45 hrs
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bernd
>
>
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