[meteorite-list] Meteoroid/Asteroid Electro-Magnetic Disruption and Charge Properties?

From: Pict <pict_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 00:59:54 -0700
Message-ID: <CD545BCA.12F10%pict_at_pict.co.uk>

Steve,

Is N2>N3 not a purely chemical reaction? In what sense is it nuclear?
Perhaps I am misinterpreting this.

Regards,
John


On 28/02/2013 00:49, "Steve Dunklee" <steve.dunklee at yahoo.com> wrote:

>Ouch!
> Imagine the extra energy released if the detonation occured inside a
>thunderhead? I had a physics instructor who thought small amounts of
>nuclear reactions were caused by lightning as in nitrogen converted to
>ozone. He said keep your eyes open. Just because something is improbable
>it doesnt make it impossible. Some detonations happen when pressures get
>to high as stated by Chris Peterson but others happen when the forward
>pressure suddenly drops causing expasion or instability. most are the
>result of some kind of forward pressure change be it up or down.
>cheers
>Steve
>
>--- On Thu, 2/28/13, James Beauchamp <falcon99 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> From: James Beauchamp <falcon99 at sbcglobal.net>
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoroid/Asteroid Electro-Magnetic
>>Disruption and Charge Properties?
>> To: "Garry Stewart" <xeqtr at yahoo.com>,
>>meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com, steve.dunklee at yahoo.com, "drtanuki"
>><drtanuki at yahoo.com>
>> Date: Thursday, February 28, 2013, 4:52 AM
>> Hi Dirk,
>>
>> A very small amount of equivalent energy is involved with
>> free electron release. Perhaps the moving electrons
>> cause localized magnetic fields, but far lower than those
>> needed to have large-scale charge separation.
>>
>> I can see the electron clouds on the radar because free
>> electrons are conductive. But energy exchange is kept
>> pretty locally.
>>
>> Now, posing in intriguing situation - lets say a
>> russian-like event occurs over a supercell
>> thunderstorm. It could skim across the anvil.
>> The line of conducting plasma would short circuit the
>> heavily charge separated areas (Charges migrate due to the
>> supercooled freezing process). I think you would get a
>> nice lightshow.
>>
>> Kind of interesting... CC meteortites, low
>> pressure. Volatile amino acids, carbon, and
>> lightning, Would be a nice situation for early life
>> forms.
>>
>>
>> --- On Wed, 2/27/13, drtanuki <drtanuki at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> From: drtanuki <drtanuki at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoroid/Asteroid
>> Electro-Magnetic Disruption and Charge Properties?
>> To: "Garry Stewart" <xeqtr at yahoo.com>,
>> meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com,
>> steve.dunklee at yahoo.com
>> Date: Wednesday, February 27, 2013, 2:15 AM
>>
>> Garry and Steve, Most excellent posts and information;
>> thank you.
>>
>> Further to my original question. Would/should we expect
>> that there may be ground-to-air electro-stactic response
>> (lightning) prior to the arrival of the physical body to
>> physical contact with the earth; and has this been simulated
>> or captured on video?
>> Dirk Ross...Tokyo
>>
>> --- On Wed, 2/27/13, Garry Stewart <xeqtr at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > From: Garry Stewart <xeqtr at yahoo.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoroid/Asteroid
>> Electro-Magnetic Disruption and Charge Properties?
>> > To: "drtanuki" <drtanuki at yahoo.com>
>> > Date: Wednesday, February 27, 2013, 4:33 PM
>> > Hi Dirk and List,
>> > This link http://www.cddc.vt.edu/host/atomic/nukeffct/enw77b1.html
>> > explains the propagation of atomic shockwaves with
>> > interesting pictures of shockwave propagation. It
>> can
>> > explain the effects on meteoric
>> > explosions at high altitude. Interesting read but
>> very
>> > long article and detailed.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: drtanuki <drtanuki at yahoo.com>
>> > > To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>> > > Cc:
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 12:59 AM
>> > > Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteoroid/Asteroid
>> > Electro-Magnetic Disruption and Charge Properties?
>> > >
>> > > Dear List,
>> > > If there is anyone willing to discuss the how and
>> why
>> > meteoroids/asteroids
>> > > "detonate" please explain for the list and
>> myself. I
>> > am interested
>> > > learning more about the
>> electrical/mechanical/physical
>> > forces that these bodies
>> > > undergo as they reach the earth such as in the
>> latest
>> > Russian event. Thank you.
>> > > Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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