[meteorite-list] Chebarkul Videos - Choice Selections to Watch (Part Two)

From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 17:03:01 -0500
Message-ID: <CAKBPJW-4mA8998yV6=QYwLcUsWya2791J6Q-ZmBT6CbZ=TheOA_at_mail.gmail.com>

Hi Mike and List,

My first thought when I saw it was : wow, this is unique, because none
of the other videos show the bolide up close like that. Now it
appears there was a good reason this video didn't match the others -
because it's not the same event.

Thanks for the heads-up.

Best regards,

MikeG

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On 2/21/13, Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com> wrote:
> yes, note how many seconds it is going, the realtime videos show the entire
> even lasting just a few seconds total, this one shows the thing slowly
> moving, putting out plumes of smoke behind it.
> no way that is a real video,
>
> Michael Farmer
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 21, 2013, at 2:52 PM, "Galactic Stone & Ironworks"
> <meteoritemike at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Are you referring to video #7?  (the first one in the "Part Two" post)
>>
>> If so, I take your word on it - you are far more experienced at this than
>> I.
>>
>> Can anyone else comment on this one?  Is it indeed a fake or the wrong
>> event?  If so, please chime in so I can strike it from the list.
>>
>> Good luck in Russia Mike!
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> MikeG
>>
>>
>> On 2/21/13, Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com> wrote:
>>> That first video is fake, or not the meteorite video, it is extremely
>>> slow
>>> moving and does not look at all like any of the others,
>>>
>>> Michael Farmer
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Feb 21, 2013, at 2:45 PM, "Galactic Stone & Ironworks"
>>> <meteoritemike at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Bob and List,
>>>>
>>>> Here are two more worth a look -
>>>>
>>>> Chebarkul Video #7 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqClUPJQJMU
>>>>
>>>> This video is quite rare amongst the ones I have seen.  While many
>>>> show the bolide as it streaks across the sky, or show the bolide trail
>>>> after passage, this video shows close-ups of the leading-edge of the
>>>> bolide.  You can actually see the very spot where the meteor is going
>>>> through ablation and you can see the smoke/debris trail as it forms.
>>>> Unfortunately, the camera-work is not the best and the video is short,
>>>> but there are a few tantalizing glimpses of the fireball itself as it
>>>> forms the trail.
>>>>
>>>> Chebarkul Video #8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp-CMWGQ9ag
>>>>
>>>> This video is short, but clearly allows you to hear the initial blast
>>>> and then several subsequent bangs/pops that may be more fragmentation
>>>> events.  It also shows a building as an upper-floor window is blown
>>>> out and a cloud of debris pours out from the shattered opening.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> MikeG
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>>>> On 2/21/13, Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Bob and List,
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are two more worth a look -
>>>>>
>>>>> Chebarkul Video #7 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqClUPJQJMU
>>>>>
>>>>> This video is quite rare amongst the ones I have seen.  While many
>>>>> show the bolide as it streaks across the sky, or show the bolide trail
>>>>> after passage, this video shows close-ups of the leading-edge of the
>>>>> bolide.  You can actually see the very spot where the meteor is going
>>>>> through ablation and you can see the smoke/debris trail as it forms.
>>>>> Unfortunately, the camera-work is not the best and the video is short,
>>>>> but there are a few tantalizing glimpses of the fireball itself as it
>>>>> forms the trail.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chebarkul Video #8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp-CMWGQ9ag
>>>>>
>>>>> This video is short, but clearly allows you to hear the initial blast
>>>>> and then several subsequent bangs/pops that may be more fragmentation
>>>>> events.  It also shows a building as an upper-floor window is blown
>>>>> out and a cloud of debris pours out from the shattered opening.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> MikeG
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>>>>> On 2/21/13, Bob King <nightsky55 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Nice selection Mike. Thanks!
>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks
>>>>>> <meteoritemike at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Listees,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am combing through hundreds of YouTube videos to find the best
>>>>>>> examples of footage from the recent Russian Chebarkul meteorite
>>>>>>> fall.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My selection criteria are :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) must be original, unedited footage with few/no cuts or mods.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) no compilations or "best of" videos.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3) no soundtracks or silly distracting music.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4) preferably has sound to hear the explosions, or if no sound, then
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> good clear view of the bolide/trail.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here are some I have selected so far with notes for each.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chebarkul Video #1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inPclE7RwFY
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This one does not clearly show the bolide or trail at first. What it
>>>>>>> does show is the viewpoint of a man holding a video camera as he
>>>>>>> reacts to the explosions. He is standing under a large wall of glass
>>>>>>> panes and many of them shatter while he is taping. He ducks to avoid
>>>>>>> the falling glass and keeps taping the entire time. He then runs
>>>>>>> down
>>>>>>> the street to record the aftermath and confusion. He then tapes the
>>>>>>> bolide trail in the sky. This is one of the best examples of the
>>>>>>> event
>>>>>>> that I have screened so far out of many dozens of videos. It meets
>>>>>>> almost all of the stated criteria in spades.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chebarkul Video #2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCawTYPtehk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This video only shows the bolide and does not record the explosions.
>>>>>>> However, it provides a very clear view of the fireball as it travels
>>>>>>> the entire length of the sky. The viewpoint is a dashboard camera in
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> car sitting at a traffic light. Very good vantage point and a much
>>>>>>> better quality video than most of the other dashboard cams I have
>>>>>>> seen
>>>>>>> so far.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chebarkul Video #3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0cRHsApzt8
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is a short but sweet video, so to speak. It is less than 20
>>>>>>> seconds. It shows someone who walked outside to film the bolide
>>>>>>> trail
>>>>>>> in the sky. The person holding the camera is then startled by the
>>>>>>> first explosion, which is very loud. Shaken, the person continues to
>>>>>>> film, until the second explosion is heard - at which point, the
>>>>>>> person
>>>>>>> becomes freaked out, runs for cover, and shuts off the camera. This
>>>>>>> one clearly lets you hear the first two fragmentation events very
>>>>>>> clearly and you get to experience the surprise and panic of the
>>>>>>> camera-person, albeit briefly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chebarkul Video #4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efvP-RRuJuA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This video I call "poor poopie" - because there is a startled dog
>>>>>>> involved. This one is a surveillance camera overlooking (downwards)
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> parking lot outside an apartment building. There is a few minutes of
>>>>>>> boring mundane footage showing pedestrians walking through or
>>>>>>> milling
>>>>>>> about. Just before the 01-25 mark (1 minute, 25 seconds), a small
>>>>>>> dog
>>>>>>> wanders into the frame with a man. While watching the bolide trail
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> the sky, the first explosion happens. What is interesting is how
>>>>>>> nonplussed the people are in reaction to this sudden unexpected
>>>>>>> explosion. It hardly startles the people, but the dog is clearly
>>>>>>> scared. Then, the second explosion happens and the dog gets spooked
>>>>>>> again. Afterwards, there are a few boring minutes of the people
>>>>>>> gawking around and dog appears to be OK.  I selected this one
>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>> - the novelty of the dog and how it reacts in relation to the people
>>>>>>> and because it shows how casual the Russians are when presented with
>>>>>>> sudden loud explosions - apparently, it's nothing to get too excited
>>>>>>> about when the sky explodes without warning. LOL.  If you don't want
>>>>>>> to get bored with this one, focus around the 1-minute and 25-second
>>>>>>> mark.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chebarkul Video #5 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7mLUIDGqmw
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This video is part 2 of a 5-part video. This parts meets almost all
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the selection criteria. You see and hear the explosions, the
>>>>>>> immediate
>>>>>>> reaction, and the confusion afterwards. You get a good feel for the
>>>>>>> confusion and chaos afterwards. Keep in mind, it is BELOW ZERO TEMPS
>>>>>>> outside during this event, and people run outside without coats,
>>>>>>> gloves, or other clothing. They run about, gawk, and discuss what
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> happened.  If any of my friends can translate some of the Russian
>>>>>>> dialogue in this video, I would greatly appreciate it. What are they
>>>>>>> saying exactly? Do they think it was an attack? A meteor? A bomb?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chebarkul Video #6 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9HkE2RztYY
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This video is short, but interesting. It appears to be shot from
>>>>>>> inside a hotel room or apartment. There is a man and a woman, and
>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>> of them is standing next to the window, looking outside at the
>>>>>>> bolide
>>>>>>> trail in the sky. Suddenly, the first sonic boom rocks the room and
>>>>>>> the woman lets out a blood-curdling scream in surprise. I selected
>>>>>>> this video because it is one of the few examples of a Russian
>>>>>>> citizen
>>>>>>> reacting strongly to the explosion. In most videos, the average
>>>>>>> citizen appears very stoic and nonchalant about the blast.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I still have several dozen more videos to comb through and will post
>>>>>>> some more at a later time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sources : Google News Aggregator, YouTube Search, Dr. Nick Gessler's
>>>>>>> webpage, Robin Whittle's posts, and suggestions via Facebook,
>>>>>>> Twitter,
>>>>>>> and other social networking sites.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dr. Gessler's excellent page -
>>>>>>> https://web.duke.edu/isis/gessler/meteorites/chelyabinsk.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> MikeG
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PS - if a reputable member of this List, the IMCA, or Met-List
>>>>>>> acquires some small fragments of this meteorite, please contact me
>>>>>>> off-list.  This does not mean I want to be contacted by strangers
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> offers.  The market is flush with fakes right now, and if I do not
>>>>>>> know you (and you are not vetted), then I will not respond to said
>>>>>>> offer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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