[meteorite-list] Confirmed September 2012 BLM Regulations.

From: Count Deiro <countdeiro_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 13:11:44 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
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I agree with your thinking Fred. Your analogy using gold is right on. I found a 29 pound meteorite a few years ago and, in a contentious and round about way, one half ended up in the Smithsonian. I still have the main mass of Stump Springs 83 an LL6 that I had Ted Bunch classify and I feel free to sell, or trade, without iinteference because the regs weren't codified at the time. What would happen if I found it today...I don't know.

Best,

Guido

 

-----Original Message-----
>From: hall at meteorhall.com
>Sent: Feb 7, 2013 1:00 PM
>To: Count Deiro <countdeiro at earthlink.net>
>Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Confirmed September 2012 BLM Regulations.
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> Just how does the casual collecting of meteorites differ from the
>casual collecting of gold? Gold is selling for over $1,600.00 per troy
>ounce, far more then most meteorites sell for. There are many thousands
>of causal gold hunters. Both gold and meteorites are difficult to find.
>Why should the regulations be different?
> The United States science community stands to lose, not gain, from the
>new regulations. Before the new regulations, anyone finding a 25 lb.
>meteorite on our Federal lands (as a very few have) would want a
>classification of said meteorite. That may no longer happen.
> Now, if the BLM had come to a positive approach to sharing meteorites
>over a ten lb. limit, say, as an example, split between the finder and
>the BLM, which could then supply the Smithsonian (or other appropriate
>museum) with the BLM's half. The finder could then do as they please
>with their share. The Smithsonian would get the meteorites classified,
>they would be happy, the meteorite hunters would be happy (at least
>much happier then with the current regulations). The meteorite finder
>would no longer have to pay for a classification, though they could if
>they so desired. Good regulations work for both our government and the
>people of the United States!
> Perhaps the IMCA should contact the Gold Prospectors Association of
>America, to find out how to stop unfair regulations before they are set
>in stone.
>What the meteorite collectors and hunters need, alas, is a lawyer to take
>the BLM to court.
>Regards, Fred Hall
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>> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 10:48:27 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
>> Subject: Fw: Meteorite Instructional Memo
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> In the process of planning new collecting trips in Arizona, Utah and
>> Nevada, I confirmed with BLM the latest regulations concerning the
>> collection of meteorites on Federal Land. (Private property and State
>> owned land are subject to different law and regulations.). The attached
>> message has a link to the current, nationally implimented, Federal
>> regulations sent to me by Dan Erbes, Nevada Lands Manager, Carson City,
>> Nevada - BLM.
>>
>> Metal detectors and magnets are an allowable device for aid in the casual
>> collecting of meteorites. A limit of ten pounds PER PERSON annually. I was
>> told that if you find a thirty pound individual, or individuals, just make
>> sure you have three people involved. Permits are available for scientific
>> collection and commercial activities. Amendments have already been
>> discussed, but not approved, to take care of the obvious unworkability of
>> some aspects of the commercial permit regs, especailly the fee based on
>> the estimated value of the land to be hunted.
>>
>> http://www.blm.gov/wo/st/en/info/regulations/Instruction_Memos_and_Bulletins/national_instruction/2012/IM_2012-182.html
>>
>> Good hunting,
>>
>> Count Deiro
>> IMCA 3536
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