[meteorite-list] Glorieta Hunt - "Diggers" episode Tonight NGC

From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <*meteoritemike_at_meteoritecentral.com*> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 13:12:54 -0400 Message-ID: <CAKBPJW9RjiaUqfUKnP3GqRNzm1cKtd_T_J8sWt9cRYeDmXrnhg_at_mail.gmail.com> · meteoritemike_at_meteoritecentral.com

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On 8/29/13, Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com> wrote:
> It is just really stupid to say that "this could be Kitt Carson's powder
> horn" or "Nectar Hannibal's razor-blade". This is entertainment for the
> lowest end of the spectrum. It belongs on MTV after Real World, not on
> National Geographic. I want the hour I wasted last night back! I would have
> been better off looking for scorpions in my backyard than watching this
> phony drivel.
> I also love metal detecting, gold mining, and meteorite hunting, Ive done
> them all, successfully.
> These shows are so contrived, so fake, so over the top full of crap that
> they are destroying these hobbies. Why do you think the BLM suddenly focused
> on meteorites and shut down collecting unless you go through years of
> paperwork? Could it be the idiotic prices quoted on certain shows telling
> people they could make thousands on every fragment of rock picked up?
> Michael Farmer
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Aug 29, 2013, at 9:09 AM, "Bob Loeffler" <bloeffler at peaktopeak.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I hate most of the reality TV shows that have been on for the last 20
>> years
>> or so, but I do end up watching Diggers, Prospectors, Meteorite Men and
>> Gold
>> Rush every now and then because they are all related to my favorite
>> hobbies
>> (digging for mineral crystals, meteorites and cool old stuff).  Yes, they
>> are extremely over-hyped by the producers, but they are just
>> entertainment.
>>
>> And I think Diggers is the least over-to-top when it comes to how much
>> something can be worth.  In one of the episodes this week, they found a
>> really old button (possibly from the late 1700s) and they said it was
>> worth
>> around $15.  If that was on Meteorite Men or Prospectors, they would've
>> added two more zeros to the end of that number!  I have seen 5 or 6
>> episodes
>> of Diggers and they have never priced anything more than $100 that I can
>> remember.  Although I don't know what most historical items should be
>> priced
>> at, I've agreed with the pricing from an outsider's point of view.  Would
>> I
>> pay $50 for a 150-year-old belt buckle in pretty good condition that
>> might've been worn by Kit Carson or Billie the Kid?  Sure!  Would I pay
>> $500?  Heck no... unless there was really good evidence that one of them
>> DID
>> wear it.  So I think a lot of the pricing on Diggers is not too far from
>> a
>> reasonable amount.  A few items that they have found in past episodes had
>> lower prices than I had expected, things that I thought were kind of cool
>> looking, so I was actually PROUD of the producers for "doing the right
>> thing" and not putting a hefty price tag on them.
>>
>> The guys on Diggers are really goofy, but that's the nature of the beast
>> (i.e. TV shows).  They are annoying, but seem like good guys out having
>> fun,
>> doing what they love to do.  Just like Geoff and Steve on MM.  Sometimes
>> annoying, but we still love them on their show.  And like Michael Mulgrew
>> said, the Diggers guys don't keep what they find.  I agree with others
>> that
>> they really should do more explaining on each episode (e.g. "we got
>> permission to dig here, make sure you get permission to dig wherever you
>> go") and dig their holes/flaps correctly to prevent erosion, dead grass,
>> etc.  I'm sure they fill in their holes, so I wouldn't worry about
>> someone
>> (or an animal) breaking their leg by stepping in a hole after these guys
>> leave.
>>
>> I just went to the Diggers website
>> (http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/diggers/) and saw this:
>>
>> "As the show's production archaeologist Kate Culpepper ensures that
>> Diggers
>> adheres to the strict standards of ethical metal detecting, and that the
>> historical value of artifacts and local sites isn't compromised in any
>> way."
>> So there is probably more to all of this than what we see on the show.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bob L.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
>> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael
>> Farmer
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 9:05 PM
>> To: Michael Mulgrew
>> Cc: Meteorite List
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Glorieta Hunt - "Diggers" episode Tonight
>> NGC
>>
>> Jesus Christ, this show is horrible, I cant even believe that the Nat Geo
>> channel has sunk so low.
>> Yeah, a crushed thimble worth $15! Good luck on getting a nickel out of
>> anything these morons find. It is sad to see these reality shows sink so
>> low.
>>
>> Michael Farmer
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Aug 28, 2013, at 7:43 PM, Michael Mulgrew <mikestang at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Adam and list,
>>>
>>> Far be it from me to defend anything on tv, but I do know (first hand,
>>> from the "Diggers" themselves) that they do not keep anything they
>>> find, it all goes to the land owners, and that their goofy terms have
>>> roots in the DVDs these guys originally made years ago and are used
>>> solely for entertainment purposes, i.e. another over-produced aspect
>>> of a cable television show.  You and all other treasure hunters know
>>> that these terms are fake, but that's ok because those terms aren't
>>> for you, they're for the general public at home who know nothing about
>>> treasure hunting and get a kick out of two wack-ohs running around and
>>> getting crazy when they find something.
>>>
>>> Any time anyone's passion/hobby is portrayed on a tv show, the "real
>>> world" practitioners are going to be affronted; these are not the
>>> target audiences for these types of shows.  If I was the worlds
>>> greatest nose picker and someone made a show about picking noses I'm
>>> sure it would be portrayed all wrong and ruin nose picking for all of
>>> us elite and dedicated Pickers.
>>>
>>> So enjoy these shows for what they are, entertainment; they are not
>>> meant to be taken seriously.  Mainstream network news
>>> (ABC/NBC/FOX/CNN/etc.) is just as fake and staged as all of these
>>> shows, and I view it in the same light.
>>>
>>> Michael in so. Cal.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> Yep, Glorieta will be the next area permanently off limits.  These guys
>> on Diggers are an embarrassment to the treasure hunting community.
>> Treasure
>> hunting club members that I stay in touch with cringe every episode
>> knowing
>> that these guys violate the rules and are ruining it for everybody else.
>> The Cascade Treasure Hunting Club reminds its members that these guys are
>> just rogue entertainers and that they are not real treasure hunters who
>> tend
>> to keep their finds to themselves or only share them with other club
>> members.
>>>>
>>>> Lets go find some "Nectar" , "Juice" and "Roundness", baby talk terms
>> used on the show that no real treasure hunter would get caught dead using
>> in
>> the field!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Adam
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