[meteorite-list] Franconia AREA (was, Re: ...terminology...)

From: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 09:12:00 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <1367079120.7009.YahooMailNeo_at_web122005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Hopefully no more media attention is given to these areas. It would not surprise me in the least bit if laws concerning meteorite recovery here in the U.S. replicate those already in place for vertebrate fossils and artifacts.? Washington and Oregon already have a LIP (Leave In Place) policy according to their BLM websites thanks to unwanted media attention. There have already been some arrests and warrants served in Arizona so be carefully when searching state or federal land because laws vary. It is not my place to disclose who was arrested so please do not ask.? Call me a dreamer but I still be believe people are innocent until proven guilty!


The 10 lbs limit is only a start of the limitations that will put on meteorite hunting.? Self-pairing will give them the excuse when writing new laws that meteorite hunters have mismanaged this resource and that all searching should be suspended.? Do not be surprised to read about the Department of Interior banging on somebodies door and serving a warrant to repatriate meteorites to the citizens of the United Sates.? If it is anything like the way the Feds handle artifacts, you will be guilty until proven innocent and even legally obtained items will be confiscated.??

Our children and grandchildren will only be able to read about the freedoms we once enjoyed and wonder why their kinship screwed up so badly,

Adam








----- Original Message -----
From: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
To: Adam <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Cc:
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Franconia AREA (was, Re: ...terminology...)

Since it is an area of mass concentration, it would not surprise me if the Met Soc started numbering the stones like they do in other case.? Something like Mohave County, MC 001, MC 002....? This multiple strewn-field is less than an hours drive from where I live but I tend to leave it alone.? I wouldn't want to eat up my 10 lbs annual limit in a few weeks.

Not only that, do not get caught selling any without a BLM commercial permit!

Adam







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From: Robert Verish <bolidechaser at yahoo.com>
To: Meteorite List <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>; Jim Wooddell <jimwooddell at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 11:02 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Franconia AREA (was, Re: ...terminology...)


Hi All,
Just read another article in the 2013 March edition of M&PS,
"Stones from Mohave County, Arizona:
Multiple falls in the 'Franconia strewn field' "
by Melinda Hutson, et al.

There is much to digest from this 5-author paper that is 25 pages long.
What with 14 stones being studied and 7 pairings to be described, there is a lot to chew on.?

Here's something to chew on.? According to this paper, "Much unclassified material that has been distributed [sold] as 'Franconia' may not be from the Franconia fall".? The authors make a case that more than half of the finds made in the "Franconia area" are paired to the Buck Mountain Wash fall.

It has taken 10 years, but these findings show that I was justified in my belly-aching about all of the self-pairing that was occurring back then.???It was on this very List that I was strongly criticized for this, and many dealers that thought they knew better defended their God-given right to name their stones after the Franconia meteorite that I got classified.? A closer look at the MetBull images for Franconia shows that very few of them are from the Franconia fall. I offer no apologies for taking great satisfaction in the fact that I am now vindicated.

The paper goes on to show that every Sacramento Wash numbered meteorite is paired to Buck Mountain Wash, which effectively has resulted in the demise of the SaW DCA and hastened the formation of the Yucca DCA.

As I said, if you read this paper, there's a lot more to digest.
It's late and I'm thinking about chewing on an antacid pill.

-- Bob V.

--- On Thu, 4/25/13, Jim Wooddell <jimwooddell at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Jim Wooddell <jimwooddell at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - IMB or SMB? The nomenclature of Melts.
> To: "Meteorite List" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Date: Thursday, April 25, 2013, 5:29 PM
>? Hi All!
> Just a point of information.? I just read Dr. Rubin's paper,
> "Multiple melting in a four-layered barred-olivine chondrule with
> compositionally heterogeneous glass from LL3.0 Semarkona"
> Whew!? That's a title for a paper!
> While we are on the subject of melts, I thought I'd point-out
> this paper.?
> Enjoyed reading it the first time....actually understood some
> of it and will read it once again after thinking about it
> for a while.
>? You folks might enjoy reading it when you get a chance!
> Thanks Alan!!
>
> Jim Wooddell
>
>
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