[meteorite-list] "I've been a miner for a heart of ....
From: Alan Rubin <aerubin_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 15:39:16 -0700 Message-ID: <F0F3D4511A1041CEB44D65BE51F555C4_at_igpp.ucla.edu> As long as we're being serious, Jeff has zeroed in on the most valuable property of asteroids -- water. Until and unless manufacturing occurs off the Earth, it is unlikely that PGE mining of asteroids will be cost-effective. But as humans again start exploring space beyond low Earth orbit, water will be a highly valuable commodity. Capturing carbonaceous asteroids that contain 8-12 wt.% water will enable manned missions, where to some extent, astronauts could live off the land like old-time invading armies. If we could also learn to eat asteroids and use them for fuel, that would be a great energy savings -- much less mass would have to be lifted off the Earth. Alan Alan Rubin Institute of Geophysics and Planetary Physics University of California 3845 Slichter Hall 603 Charles Young Dr. E Los Angeles, CA 90095-1567 phone: 310-825-3202 e-mail: aerubin at ucla.edu website: http://cosmochemists.igpp.ucla.edu/Rubin.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Kichinka" <marsrox at gmail.com> To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 2:35 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] "I've been a miner for a heart of .... ....platinum (with apologies to Neil Young). Team Meteorite: This 'string' regarding 'asteroid mining' has attracted the scholarly attention of the Rubin's and Grossman's and seems worth tying into a couple more knots. I'm all thumbs though when tying knots, so subject to peer review which I will cheerfully accept from my uber peers Rubin and Grossman (as well as my everyday peers on this forum)..... ..... here's some more facts and data dug from two mining company websites, hopefully properly interpreted by me, the mini-peer :>) ************************************************************************ On Earth, typically ten tons of ore must be crushed and refined to yield one oz of platinum or platinum group metals (pgm). *********************************************************************** That fact informs me that an unsupervised process in a harsh environment like found on an asteroid in space will have a lower yield. The main concept of all this discussion is that bulk rock has to be processed for shipping in a small package. Next up is an abridged description of the process of mining ore to acquire platinum group metals(pgm), compiled/copied from two websites of mining companies in Africa, probably the richest source of Earth's pgm. *Concentration The ore is ground to liberate mineral particles. These are then recovered in the form of a concentrate by froth flotation. The ore mineralogy dictates both the fineness of grind required for liberation and the ideal flotation conditions. Very fine particles are difficult to recover, so two or even three milling and flotation stages may be used to minimise losses caused by over-grinding. There are minor differences in the details of the equipment and operations employed.... processing a metallic concentrate rich in PGMs is sometimes produced in addition to the flotation concentrate. This concentrate can be sufficiently rich to by-pass the smelter and be sent straight to base metal removal. *Smelting The concentrate is melted in an electric furnace. Large units with six electrodes in line are used for smelting concentrates.Upon melting, the concentrate separates into two layers. The upper layer is a silicate/oxide slag which is tapped off and then either discarded or returned to concentration. The lower layer is a sulphide motto which is sent for converting. The flotation-concentrate composition must be suitable for smelting. Its rock mineral content should produce a fluid slag at the desired temperature. At the same time, it must contain enough sulphides to form a reasonable quantity of matter. To compensate for minor problems with chemical composition, various fluxes are added. Typically, the main addition is burnt lime or limestone but other materials such as carbonaceous reductants, sulphides, oxides or silicates are used as necessary. *Base metal removal Base metals are removed from the converter matte either by leaching or by a combination of magnetic separation and leaching processes. Problem elements such as selenium, arsenic and tellurium are also removed. The concentrate which results is sent for further processing into refined precious metals. Base metals are a valuable by-product of PGM extraction. Their further refining by the various producers is largely dictated by economies of scale. Refining Precious metals refining processes have developed considerably in recent years. The older or ?classical? process involved first roasting the PGM concentrate. This made the rhodium, iridium and ruthenium insoluble in aqua regia. The platinum, palladium and gold were then dissolved and separated by a series of sequential precipitations, The remaining residue was then upgraded by pyro-metallurgical and leaching processes before being separated into individual metals. Final purification of all metals was by repeated dissolution and precipitation. Improved separation and refining procedures have become available for all of the precious metals. These commonly involve operations such as solvent extraction or ion exchange. They are being introduced either to replace procedures in the classical process or as part of completely new refining processes. Advantages such as improved precious metals recovery, lower refining costs and shorter processing times are being claimed. ******************************************************************************************** Additional notes: The first step in the mining process uses explosives to break the rock, then it is loaded onto conveyor belts and delivered to machines to be crushed into fine particles. The "froth flotation" mentioned during the concentration stage consists of 'flotation separation' where finely ground pgm particles adhere to air bubbles in an aeration tank where they float to the top and are skimmed off. "Ore from different areas of the same mine can have quite different characteristics" which I presume to mean varying pmg concentrations and varying ratios and types of associated base metals either of which would call for a variable processing regime. Today's Conclusion by this mini-peer - At this point in the discussion, I remain skeptical of the economic viability of this scheme. I have some expertise in 'mining' because I follow precious/base metals and mining companies daily while trading equities (my main 'job'). While the price of gold might seem high this year, the miners are not enjoying higher share prices, in fact they are being crushed (that's a pun). Why? They borrow a lot and/or dilute shareholders with additional share offerings because it costs a lot to be a mining company even before political risks (acquiring permits, taxation/royalties/expropriations) are considered. It's a bad business. The 'low apples on the tree have been picked' and the remaining resource metals are now either deeper in the ground or of lesser concentrations. Coupled with higher energy, labor, and transport costs from ever more remote regions, this means 'owning a gold mine' ain't what it used to be. The processes described in those two websites work well with gravity and when power to create high temps, fuel to power machines, and water for everything else is readily available. Engineers like difficult problems so - - hauling machinery millions of miles away or - - setting up 3D fabricating machines (and you still need refined metal to duplicate the machine you want to manufacture), - then controlling rocks blown into small pieces in a weightless environment, - in an airless setting where O2 is needed for bubbles in a tank of (yep) water (need to make that, too) - so that your specific crushed rock particles float to the top when in a weightless environment there is no 'top', - to be concentrated, fluxed, separated, leached and refined, - THEN freight the finished product home as 'foam balls of concentrate' to - safely re-enter Earth's atmosphere 'somewhere' to be collected and shipped for further refinement and sale on an ongoing basis from a planetoid millions of miles away all without direct adult supervision, - while accountants on Earth calculate the revenues and sales and declare some risk-taker wise and wealthy.... ...will make a lot of engineers ecstatic. Did this first appear on April One? Sure FOOLED me. "I want to live, I want to give I've been a miner for a heart of gold. It's these expressions I never give That keep me searching for a heart of gold And I'm getting old. Keeps me searching for a heart of gold And I'm getting old." Kevin Kichinka Rio del Oro, Santa Ana, Costa Rica www.theartofcollectingmeteorites.com 'The Global Meteorite Price Report - 2013' Marsrox at gmail.com ______________________________________________ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Received on Sun 07 Apr 2013 06:39:16 PM PDT |
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