[meteorite-list] New BLM Rules

From: Michael Mulgrew <mikestang_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 10:40:58 -0700
Message-ID: <CAMseTy3sHiyD_DTq=4-LkkS=GwgwhRVBGzXCjLRGTmmjNeyiLw_at_mail.gmail.com>

Shawn,

You mean you didn't hear about the hundreds of meteorite experts now
on staff at the BLM that are going to verify everyone's finds and
classify them so their "fair market value" can be assessed? Oh wait,
me neither.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Shawn Alan <photophlow at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hello Listers
>
> What is confusing for me is that its seem the new BLM rules make it impossible for scientist and institutions to hunt and collect "meteorites" in the name for science, I wonder why? You would think it would be just as easy for scientist as it is with the casual collector. As speaking of a casual collectors, how could one be 100% its a meteorite? At the end of the day, its a stone until otherwise prove or disprove by someone with expertise.
>
> Shawn Alan
> IMCA 1633
> eBay Store
> http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html?
>
>
>
>
> [meteorite-list] New BLM Rules
> Jeff Grossman jngrossman
> at gmail.com
> Thu Sep 20 19:06:11 EDT 2012
> * Previous message: [meteorite-list] New BLM Rules
> * Next message: [meteorite-list] Curiosity Update: Near
> Target Rock 'Matijevic'
> * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject
> ] [ author ]
> ________________________________
>
> All,
>
> For those of you who don't know, I contribute to
> this list as a private
> citizen, but I work at NASA headquarters, with duties
> that extend to
> oversight of curation and research programs. I will be
> reading all
> posts on the list pertaining to this issue.
>
> Jeff
>
> On 9/20/2012 6:37 PM, Jim Wooddell wrote:
>
>>I have been in
> communications with the BLM on and off all day. Art,
>
>>thank
> for the HTML reminder as I have been trying to post all day and
>
>>thought I had this set correctly!
>
>>
>
>>Here is the first response:
>
>>
>
>>Dear Mr. Wooddell: The application fee is dependent on the
> time it
>
>>takes for BLM to process the project proposal in the
> application. This
>
>>would be determined by the field office
> manager after the application
>
>>is submitted and reviewed.
> These fees would be estimated for you prior
>
>>to the
> processing of the application, and would include monitoring
>
>>fees as well. The permit application/ permit is 2920-1 attached; fees
>
>>would be on page 2 when a permit is issued. Some examples of
> what the
>
>>fees would be can be found on the following web
> site and one example
>
>>is attached. http://www.blm.gov/wo/st/en/prog/more/lands.html You
>
>>mentioned a ?nation-wide? permit in your email. BLM
> issues permits on
>
>>a local level, and at maximum could be on
> a state-wide level, for
>
>>lands that we administer in the
> Western States. Thank you,Lucia Kuizon
>
>>---
>
>>
>
>>I am not going to post their second
> response but they are now aware of
>
>>some issues that may or
> may not change the wording.
>
>>
>
>>I feel it is
> imperative for NASA to reach out and support hunters on
>
>>this
> issue in regards to the need to hunt fresh falls immediately,
>
>>without delay of some permit process. While they are
> claiming media
>
>>sparked this, most of us knew it was coming,
> just did not know when or
>
>>how the wording would be.
>
>>
>
>>The current fee structure is twofold. 1.
> The application / permit.
>
>>2. The monitoring fee. Currently
> the fees will range from ~$100 to
>
>>~$1100 for commercial
> hunters....those seeking profit. This is based
>
>>on their
> current cost recovery methods. I have both the application
>
>>and the fee schedule as example based on the above response. If
>
>>anyone wants them shoot me a private email.
>
>>
>
>>The big issue for hunters is that this
> will be based on a regional
>
>>level where each district
> supervisor may or may not have special
>
>>conditions, etc.
> Bottom line is that it will be required to have
>
>>permits in
> different hunting areas and could greatly increase overhead
>
>>for professional hunters. If hunters have to wait for a permit
>
>>process during a meteor event that produces meteorites, I
> feel science
>
>>looses.
>
>>
>
>>Regards,
>
>>
>
>>Jim
>
>>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
>
> * Previous message: [meteorite-list] New BLM Rules
> * Next message: [meteorite-list] Curiosity Update: Near
> Target Rock 'Matijevic'
> * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject
> ] [ author ]
> ________________________________
>
> More
> information about the Meteorite-list mailing list
> ______________________________________________
>
> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html
> Meteorite-list mailing list
> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Received on Fri 21 Sep 2012 01:40:58 PM PDT