[meteorite-list] Novato, Addison, Battle Mountain, Sutter's Mill, Beni Yacoub, Others?

From: GREG LINDH <geeg48_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:34:00 -0700
Message-ID: <BLU169-W67BE42451CC3E161462496C9570_at_phx.gbl>

  Yeah, Adam, we soon may be eating twinkie knock offs, made in Mexico. What a shame.
  The same type of intrusion will most likely see it's way into the meteorite community. This too, will be a shame. I'm not a hunter, but, what hurts you hunters, hurts me as a collector.
  The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen. I'd say that's a pretty solid axiom.

  Greg L.


> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 08:09:21 -0800
> From: raremeteorites at yahoo.com
> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato, Addison, Battle Mountain, Sutter's Mill, Beni Yacoub, Others?
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> Yes, social media. Pretty soon, you will be rated on your online social profile if Bill Gates gets has his way. I can see it now, insurance companies refusing to insure due to a non-existent or poor social profile. Even the founder of Facebook refused to open an account until recently knowing this information is shared for profit, offering user demographics and interests to companies. Nowadays, Information equals money. Even your cell phone imbeds GPS coordinates into your images that can and will be used against you if the time arises. I recently rented a car with Onstar on-board and had to sign a contract stating that I would not take the 4-wheel drive vehicle off-road and that they would know if I did. What purpose does a rental 4-wheel drive Jeep Wrangler serve if it cannot be taken into the dirt?
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> Recently, a computer in a car was used in court to convict a driver of manslaughter. Maybe not a bad thing if the person were guilty but taking the word of a computer over the testimony of human beings is something else. I know this sounds like paranoia on my part but I assure you that it is all true.
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> Too much information can be a bad thing thus the meaning of going underground. At least in Australia, the museums actually issue export permits. Lets see if anybody gets a U.S. meteorite collecting permit for commercial purposes. My belief is that it will never happen!
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> I ponder all of this as I may be eating the last Hostess Twinkie ever produced after 82 years of being in business! The Battle Mountain fall may be remembered as the last event on U.S. public land where hunters could openly share.
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> Happy Hunting Fellow Comrades,
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> Adam
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
> To: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
> Cc: Adam <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 7:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato, Addison, Battle Mountain, Sutter's Mill, Beni Yacoub, Others?
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> Actually plenty is going on behind the scenes. The lack of interest on the list with new falls has finally driven most of us working actively on such new falls to no longer bother with sharing much.
> Sadly many of the people here actually aren't interested in actual meteorites, but other things. It takes time to compose emails, share information, and write about these adventures and to share with a thousand people who don't actually care, is a waste of that time.
> I know many of the people working these falls now, though for the last two I have not had time to go and with Novato, I decided to pass on that fall since the scientific response was so poorly handled and the overwhelming chaotic "treasure hunt" mentality of the locals make it a hunt I did not want to participate in.
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> Over the years I have seen the responses on here drop to nothing other than attacks after a fall, so I think that mostly the reason you don't see many hunters bothering with it. Most information has gone the Facebook route.
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> Michael Farmer
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> Sent from my iPad
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> On Nov 18, 2012, at 7:56 AM, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > The U.S. market is in the process of going underground due to new restrictions and monitoring. We saw the same thing happen in Australia which has less restrictive laws than the U.S.
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> > I have always stated that too much price hype in the media equals governmental interest. Interest equals the need to control.
> >
> > Happy Hunting,
> >
> > Adam
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> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: MikeG <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
> > To: Meteorite List <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> > Cc:
> > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 8:13 PM
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Novato, Addison, Battle Mountain, Sutter's Mill, Beni Yacoub, Others?
> >
> > We've had lots of new falls this year, and especially over the last
> > couple of months. Yet, we are hearing very little chatter. What
> > gives?
> >
> > Any new Novato or Addison finds? Any reports?
> >
> > What about some of the older falls, like Battle Mountain and Sutter's
> > Mill? Are any new finds being made from those strewnfields?
> >
> > The Met-List seems strangely quiet, given the amount of space rocks we
> > are being peppered with.
> >
> > Best regards and happy huntings,
> >
> > MikeG
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