[meteorite-list] Coloma/Lotus/SM fall map to date

From: Jim Wooddell <nf114ec_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 14:15:08 -0700
Message-ID: <16FFCCE1FC6243D994DCFBAF55C5FF3C_at_Grande>

Mike, Maybe there are typos in the maps??? I do know that Marc's map and
my map did not match last night and I think I caught some errors and
communicated that with him. Mine matched Peter's data. He may have
received different data, I am not sure.

We are submitting a few more finds today, Terry Scott and Rob Crane and
Ruben Garcia's. While these are small frags, only a few of us were actually
collecting frags on the days we were hunting. Working on the map and
database files now. If you do know of bad data, maybe get that to Peter.

Keep in mind that some of this is fluid and considered provisional data
which is subject to change. For example, SM15 changed today. This is
typical.
Also, many folks did not have GPS units and the finds used the "pointy
finger" approach on Google Earth.

Will be interesting to learn what the name of this fall will be!

Jim



----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Hankey" <mike.hankey at gmail.com>
To: "jason utas" <jasonutas at gmail.com>
Cc: "Jim Wooddell" <nf114ec at npgcable.com>; "Michael Farmer"
<mike at meteoriteguy.com>; "Marc Fries" <mfries8 at hotmail.com>;
"Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Coloma/Lotus/SM fall map to date


Jason,

I agree with what you are saying. Most of the finds are going to come
from the easier/clear spots where the most people are looking hardest.
I do think the majority of the finds are being recorded properly, but
there have been some that have not been. Jim, I don't want to get into
specifics publicly or make any accusations.

Just saying: It would be nice if people would report the true location
of their finds, and if they can't or don't want to, to just not report
the find at all or keep the coordinates private. Posting fake
coordinates is just a really crappy thing to do.

In the grand scheme of things, most of the finds are probably correct,
but I'm sure there are some that are not.

Thanks,

Mike


On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 4:45 PM, jason utas <jasonutas at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Jim, Michael, All,
> I'm not so sure about that. Our team made the majority of its finds
> along roadsides because it was the easiest place to spot meteorites.
> Hunting in grass as your team did (Mike Hankey) is all very well for
> finding larger stones (and congrats on your find). But - smaller
> stones would be much harder to spot in grass. Finds on trails should
> have nothing to do with ethics, as trails typically belong to the land
> they run through.
> ...And that 7.3 gram stone I found was sitting right in the middle of
> the trail (I'll post a photo on facebook soon). I'm impressed by Mark
> Dayton's nearby five-gram find -- he must have been bush-whacking, and
> there was *a lot* of poison-oak in there. We spent some time
> off-trail in there, but it was tough going, and you'd have to just
> about step on a meteorite in order to find it. Same goes for most
> grassy areas.
> Jason
>
> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Jim Wooddell <nf114ec at npgcable.com>
> wrote:
>> Mike,
>>
>> Which finds are you talking about???
>>
>> I think Peter is confirming all of them.
>>
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Hankey" <mike.hankey at gmail.com>
>> To: "Michael Farmer" <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
>> Cc: "Marc Fries" <mfries8 at hotmail.com>; "Meteorite-list"
>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 12:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Coloma/Lotus/SM fall map to date
>>
>>
>>
>> i think some finds are also popping up in these locations due to
>> err-ummm ethical reasons.. or lack of ethics i should say.
>>
>> On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Most found by roads and trails because rest is waist-high poison oak
>>> slithering with rattlesnakes. 99% or more will never be found.
>>> Michael Farmer
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On May 8, 2012, at 5:47 PM, Marc Fries <mfries8 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Howdy all
>>>>
>>>> There are a few people keeping track of the Coloma/Lotus/SM meteorite
>>>> fall with maps, and let me give a hat tip to Peter Jenniskens for
>>>> keeping up
>>>> with the meteorites. He has a regularly updated list of these
>>>> meteorites
>>>> with masses and find locations:
>>>>
>>>> http://asima.seti.org/sm/
>>>>
>>>> I've assembled these and a few others into a strewn field map:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://radarmeteorites.wordpress.com/2012/05/01/coloma-ca-strewn-field-map/
>>>>
>>>> I've been chafing to get up there myself but have been restrained to
>>>> hunting vicariously through others. I'll get up there, but I wanted to
>>>> point
>>>> out that there is a lot of area on that map with no finds, and that
>>>> most of
>>>> the finds seem to be close to trails and roads. Looks to me like
>>>> there's
>>>> still quite a lot of material waiting to be found...!
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Marc Fries
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