[meteorite-list] It's a zepplin, not a blimp!

From: Matthias Bärmann <majbaermann_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 21:11:39 +0200
Message-ID: <11CC0930E8B846CF8DFC9BBBF7646C3A_at_thinkcentre>

Thank you, Mike, meanwhile your personal opinion, what concerns the
Zep/Blimp-problem, is well understood.

Wish you & your compagnons a successful hunt! Go for the main mass, guys!

Best regards,
Matthias

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Farmer" <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
To: "dorifry" <dorifry at embarqmail.com>
Cc: "Sterling K. Webb" <sterling_k_webb at sbcglobal.net>;
<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] It's a zepplin, not a blimp!


> Can't we all use google to research this? It is really less interesting
> than the incredibly rare meteorite which fell here, which seems to draw
> less attention than an aircraft........
> This is a meteorite list, not a zeppelin or blimp list.
> Michael Farmer
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 5, 2012, at 7:44 AM, "dorifry" <dorifry at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
>> A dirigible is any lighter-than-air airship that can be steered. Zepplins
>> and blimps are both dirigibles. The word comes from the French word
>> diriger meaning to direct. It was first applied to the French army's
>> airship "La France" in 1884. Count Ferdinand Graf von Zepplin built his
>> first airship the LZ-1 in 1900.
>>
>> Phil Whitmer
>> Joshua Tree Earth & Space Museum
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart McDaniel"
>> <actionshooting at carolina.rr.com>
>> To: "Sterling K. Webb" <sterling_k_webb at sbcglobal.net>;
>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>; "dorifry" <dorifry at embarqmail.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 10:20 AM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] It's a zepplin, not a blimp!
>>
>>
>>> OK, so everyone is wrong.......it's a dirigible. (semi-rigid airship)
>>> :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *****************************
>>> Stuart McDaniel
>>> Lawndale, NC
>>> Secr.,
>>> Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society
>>>
>>> IMCA #9052
>>> Sirius Meteorites
>>>
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>>>
>>> *********************************
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Sterling K. Webb
>>> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 4:01 PM
>>> To: actionshooting at carolina.rr.com ; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>> ; dorifry
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] It's a zepplin, not a blimp!
>>>
>>> Stuart, List
>>>
>>> 1. A blimp (technically called a "pressure airship") is
>>> a powered, steerable, lighter-than-air vehicle whose
>>> shape is maintained by the pressure of the gases
>>> within its envelope. A blimp has no rigid internal
>>> structure; if a blimp deflates, it loses its shape.
>>>
>>> 2. A rigid airship has a framework surrounding one
>>> or more individual gas cells, and maintains its shape
>>> by virtue of its rigid framework and not the pressure
>>> of its lifting gas.
>>>
>>> 3. A zeppelin is a rigid airship manufactured by a
>>> particular company, the Luftschiffbau Zeppelin of
>>> Germany (the "Zeppelin Airship Construction
>>> Company"), which was founded by Count Ferdinand
>>> von Zeppelin.
>>>
>>> 4. A semi-rigid airship, like a blimp, maintains its
>>> aerodynamic shape from internal gas pressure, but
>>> it has a partial rigid frame, usually in the form of a
>>> keel, which supports and distributes loads and
>>> provides structural integrity during maneuvering.
>>> The modern Zeppelin NT, such as the Eureka, is
>>> a semi-rigid airship rather than a blimp.
>>>
>>> 5. A dirigible is any lighter-than-air craft that is
>>> both powered and steerable (as opposed to free
>>> floating, like a balloon). Blimps, rigid airships,
>>> and semi-rigid airships like the Zeppelin NT are
>>> all dirigibles.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sterling K. Webb
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <actionshooting at carolina.rr.com>
>>> To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>; "dorifry"
>>> <dorifry at embarqmail.com>; "Sterling K. Webb"
>>> <sterling_k_webb at sbcglobal.net>
>>> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 1:49 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] It's a zepplin, not a blimp!
>>>
>>>
>>>> OK, I am goin gto ask the obvious, what is the difference in a blimp
>>>> and a zep?
>>>> --
>>>> *****************************
>>>> Stuart McDaniel
>>>> Lawndale, NC
>>>> IMCA#9052
>>>>
>>>> http://spacerocks.weebly.com
>>>> http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1
>>>> *****************************
>>>>
>>>> ---- "Sterling K. Webb" <sterling_k_webb at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> =============
>>>> Phil, List,
>>>>
>>>> As the sarcastic individual who suggested a
>>>> need for Blimp Patches, I apologize. It is, literally,
>>>> a Zeppelin, built by the Zeppelin company in
>>>> Friedrichshafen, Germany, home of the original
>>>> Zeppelins. At 246 feet long, she stretches 15
>>>> feet longer than a standard Boeing 747 and 50
>>>> feet longer than the largest commercial blimps
>>>> flying today. It is named "Eureka," nicely matching
>>>> the history of Sutter's Mill. Maybe the name will
>>>> bring good luck.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.airshipventures.com/about
>>>> Unlike the original Zeppelins, it is a semi-rigid
>>>> design, lacking a full envelope frame like the old
>>>> ones. However, it is made of carbon fibre and
>>>> aluminum, has very sophisticated motive control,
>>>> with vectored thrust and fly-by-wire controls, and
>>>> has incredible maneuverability.
>>>>
>>>> That said, trying to maneuver close to the ground
>>>> in that terrain in a weightless craft almost as long
>>>> as a football field is a daunting prospect. All old
>>>> airshipmen know the dangers are near the ground,
>>>> not in the sky.
>>>>
>>>> Zeppelin Patches?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sterling K. Webb
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "dorifry" <dorifry at embarqmail.com>
>>>> To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 12:14 PM
>>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] It's a zepplin, not a blimp!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Big difference! Stop calling it a blimp please! (LOL)
>>>>>
>>>>> Phil Whitmer
>>>>> Joshua Tree Earth & Space Museum
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