[meteorite-list] IT'S OFFICIAL - TISSINT SHERGOTTITE!

From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <*meteoritemike_at_meteoritecentral.com*> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:36:55 -0500 Message-ID: <CAKBPJW-cJ3PHc_tkdx68=RfThvkeEtH0enmEGTU57sxi8LO1Aw_at_mail.gmail.com> · meteoritemike_at_meteoritecentral.com

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On 1/16/12, Erik Fisler <phxerik at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Thanks Mark, see you in Tucson as well! I'll be at the birthday bash for the
> first time as I am now 21 ;)
>
> Bob, universities actually do make trades and buy new material. I was lucky
> enough to be let into the vault and there was kilos and kilos of new stuff
> that had been traded and bought to add or to replace collection pieces.
> Garvie is very adamant about improving ASU's collection.
>
> [Erik]
>
> Sent from my iPod
>
> On Jan 16, 2012, at 8:39 PM, Erik Fisler <phxerik at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Well Hello there fellow list members!
>>
>> I'd like to step out of the shadows and share some of my experiences now
>> that I'm working my way through my junior year of my space exploration
>> degree at ASU.
>>
>> Being that I completed my associates degree from a community college
>> (which a very friendly and welcoming environment) and have now transferred
>> to ASU, I have noticed some interesting things in the environment of a
>> university.
>> One very interesting thing I've noticed is that engineers look down their
>> noses at scientists and vice versa.
>> I think that is the funniest thing! It's really enjoyable to hear an
>> engineer or a scientist make some jab at the other team. Apparently it's
>> not just at ASU but at UofA and NAU as well so I've heard from friends
>> attending those schools. That is a terrible rivalry or what ever you'd
>> like to call it which can only lead to issues in collaboration between
>> both groups.
>> Another interesting 'preconceived notion' I've experienced is that as far
>> a meteorite go, people at the university, professors and students, see
>> meteorite hunters almost like pirates, sucking up material the university
>> is entitled to. I let my astrophysics class including my professor hurl
>> all sorts of silly notions at me before I clarified what meteorite hunting
>> is like. I'm sure their view has been skewed from shows like Meteorite Men
>> and from some of the Saharan Hunters.  I explained that the Meteorite Men
>> have special permission to hunt some of those fields and that they are
>> hunting fields in which there is no shortage of material for universities.
>> I explained that hunters like in the South Western United States spend
>> months and months before finding new falls and that it is almost
>> impossible to profit as a meteorite hunter, baring few exceptions. I also
>> explained that hunting fields like Franconia or Gold Basin have so much
>> material that there is more than enough for U
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>> versities to acquire. I also explained that the extreme drop in
>> Austrailian finds to almost none is actually inhibiting those Universities
>> from acquiring new material for research and discovery of new meteorite
>> types.  On top of that I explained that a University doesn't need 30 kilos
>> of material to study lol.
>>
>> Meteorite hunters find a field, donate 20g's or 20% or sometimes kilos
>> worth a material for classification. It's very important that this is how
>> hunters process their finds along with meticulous collection habits like
>> GPSing and recording each find so these unknowing educates have no
>> ammunition when they come for our hunting rights. It was an eye opening
>> experience for me to see that even though they can be highly experienced
>> they aren't all as understanding as Laurence Garvie and the other select
>> few educates we all work with.  It's scary to think they project these
>> notions on to the students who flow semester after semester through their
>> classes.
>>
>> Raising awareness and educating people is how we can keep our hunting
>> freedoms and how we can protect future meteorite discoveries from
>> terrestrialization as a result of draconian legislations.
>>
>> [Erik]
>>
>> Sent from my iPod
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