[meteorite-list] Tata-Foumzgit Martian Fall. The most significant fall of this century?
From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 21:04:53 -0500 Message-ID: <CAKBPJW8xu41WoJ3zRU8E4HXwpKvX1qenEYZN+aota9_biS9Z6Q_at_mail.gmail.com> Hi List, I was discussing with someone off-list, and I'm wondering (as many of you have) - why no lunar witnessed falls? We get a Martian fall about every 50 years, but no lunar falls on record. According to those numbers, we were due for a Martian fall. And we are long long overdue for a lunar fall.... Best regards, MikeG -- ************************************************* Galactic Stone & Ironworks - Meteorites & Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone *************************************************** On 1/12/12, Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike at gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Count and List, > > I probably should have clarified - the 21st century. So basically the > last ~12 years. It's hard to find a fall (pun intended) in the last > 12 years that is more important (overall) than this Martian. In > terms of scientific value, Tagish Lake is probably high on the list of > the most important in the 21st century. > > If NonCom approves it as a fall and if a lot of good research comes > out of this meteorite, then it's surely one of the most interesting > falls of the 50 years. > > Let's all cross our fingers and hope that MetSoc approves this as a > named fall and that they approve it quickly once they have the data > required to do so. :) > > Best regards, > > MikeG > > -- > ************************************************* > > Galactic Stone & Ironworks - Meteorites & Amber (Michael Gilmer) > > Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com > Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my > News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 > Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone > > *************************************************** > > > > > On 1/12/12, Count Deiro <countdeiro at earthlink.net> wrote: >> >> >> I only know that there are papers published making the argument that >> certain >> SNC's and Alan Hills 84001 show evidence of fossilized life forms. There >> are >> other scientists who dispute this. Nakhla has the more compelling >> artifacts >> and is used more often to prove the hypothesis. >> >> Regards, >> >> Count Deiro >> IMCA 3536 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >>>From: dorifry <dorifry at embarqmail.com> >>>Sent: Jan 12, 2012 2:15 PM >>>To: Count Deiro <countdeiro at earthlink.net>, Galactic Stone & Ironworks >>> <meteoritemike at gmail.com>, meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tata-Foumzgit Martian Fall. The most >>> significant fall of this century? >>> >>>If life has been confirmed on Mars, wouldn't the President have called a >>>press conference? >>> >>>Phil Whitmer >>>Joshua Tree Earth & Space Museum >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Count Deiro" <countdeiro at earthlink.net> >>>To: "Galactic Stone & Ironworks" <meteoritemike at gmail.com>; >>><meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> >>>Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 4:41 PM >>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tata-Foumzgit Martian Fall. The most >>>significant fall of this century? >>> >>> >>>> Michael has asked: >>>> >>>>>Would it be safe to say, that the new Martian "Tata" fall is the most >>>>>significant meteorite fall of the 21st century, and perhaps of the >>>>>last 50+ years? >>>> >>>> Not even close, Mike if by century, you were referring to falls >>>> observed >>>> through the 1900's. Take Nakhla for example. Witnessed fall. Immediate >>>> collection by experts and responsible for stirring the fuel under that >>>> most famous of all Martian arguments....is there is, or is there was >>>> ..life on Mars. Chock full of fossilized nanobacteria, biomorphs and >>>> whatever else they found last month that is being written up at this >>>> writing. >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> Count Deiro >>>> IMCA 3536 >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike at gmail.com> >>>>>Sent: Jan 12, 2012 9:09 AM >>>>>To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>>>>Subject: [meteorite-list] Tata-Foumzgit Martian Fall. The most >>>>> significant >>>>>fall of this century? >>>>> >>>>>Hi List, >>>>> >>>>>Would it be safe to say, that the new Martian "Tata" fall is the most >>>>>significant meteorite fall of the 21st century, and perhaps of the >>>>>last 50+ years? >>>>> >>>>>All things considered, this has the makings of a very significant >>>>>event for science. This is the most pristine sample of Mars to arrive >>>>>in labs for a long time, if ever. Even the freshest NWA finds cannot >>>>>compare to fresh stones collected less than a year after the fall. >>>>>The unbroken stones and larger fragments will supply science with >>>>>unaltered, unoxidixed material for research. This new Martian is >>>>>going to be widely studied, so I hope everyone is getting their >>>>>microprobes warmed up in anticipation. >>>>> >>>>>Word has it that institutions and museums have been allocated a >>>>>sizeable amount of material in terms of trades and donations, so there >>>>>appears to be plenty of it available for study. It is safe to say >>>>>that this new meteorite (whatever the official name turns out to be) >>>>>will appear in a lot of papers and journals over time. >>>>> >>>>>For science, this is the next best thing to a manned sample-return >>>>>mission. For collectors this is best thing since sliced bread. The >>>>>only thing that could have made this fall better, from a collector's >>>>>standpoint, is if a stone had bounced off a Bedouin tent and struck a >>>>>camel in the hump. But, you can't have your cake and eat it too. ;) >>>>> >>>>>So, what is the going consensus on the details of this fall? >>>>> >>>>>Nickname - Tata or Foumzgit (mostly "Tata") >>>>> >>>>>TKW - several kilograms, probably less than 10kg. Much of this is in >>>>>the form of large whole stones and large broken stones and that >>>>>material has been absorbed into collections and is not likely to >>>>>return to the market. Ballpark figure of material to be available >>>>>eventually on the collector market is probably "a few kilos" (2-3kg?) >>>>> >>>>>Date of fall - July of 2011 (certain), actual date - July 25, 2011? >>>>>Other reports say earlier in July (13-15?) >>>>> >>>>>Time of fall - day or night? (night?) >>>>> >>>>>Type - Shergottite, shocked, silver-grey matrix with black shock >>>>>veins. Glossy fresh black fusion crust. >>>>> >>>>>Misc - witness reports include an audible explosion and popping sounds. >>>>> >>>>>Does all of that sound about right? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>************************************************* >>>>> >>>>>Galactic Stone & Ironworks - Meteorites & Amber (Michael Gilmer) >>>>> >>>>>Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com >>>>>Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my >>>>>News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 >>>>>Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone >>>>> >>>>>*************************************************** >>>>>______________________________________________ >>>>>HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! >>>>>Visit the Archives at >>>>>http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>>>>Meteorite-list mailing list >>>>>Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>>>>http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________ >>>> HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! >>>> Visit the Archives at >>>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> >> >> >Received on Fri 13 Jan 2012 09:04:53 PM PST |
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