[meteorite-list] Bicentenary of the meteorite of Toulouse

From: Ed Deckert <edeckert_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 22:51:31 -0400
Message-ID: <53726C511D594B09BA2F5B4AD3DC5C30_at_MAINPC>

Sterling, I think you hit on the answer.
Perhaps they are misinformed, and afraid to partake.
Properly cooked, it's not like they would croak after eating it... ;-)

Ed

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sterling K. Webb" <sterling_k_webb at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Ed Deckert" <edeckert at triad.rr.com>; <element33 at peconic.net>;
<karmaka-meteorites at t-online.de>; <mexicodoug at aim.com>;
<Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>; "Anne Black" <impactika at aol.com>
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Bicentenary of the meteorite of Toulouse


> Ed, I can only guess.
>
> Perhaps everybody likes a festival,
> but not everybody likes frog for dinner?
>
>
> Sterling K. Webb
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ed Deckert" <edeckert at triad.rr.com>
> To: "Sterling K. Webb" <sterling_k_webb at sbcglobal.net>;
> <element33 at peconic.net>; <karmaka-meteorites at t-online.de>;
> <mexicodoug at aim.com>; <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>; "Anne Black"
> <impactika at aol.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2012 9:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Bicentenary of the meteorite of Toulouse
>
>
> Sterling,
>
> I cannot help but wonder why if there are 80,000 attendees at that frog
> leg
> festival, why are only 7,000 frog leg dinners served? Any ideas why?
>
> Ed
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sterling K. Webb" <sterling_k_webb at sbcglobal.net>
> To: <element33 at peconic.net>; <karmaka-meteorites at t-online.de>;
> <mexicodoug at aim.com>; <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>; "Anne Black"
> <impactika at aol.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2012 9:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Bicentenary of the meteorite of Toulouse
>
>
> Anne, and assorted frog fanciers,
>
> While Turkish frogs in France are delicious,
> I'm sure, there are frog legs nearer to hand,
> or at least nearer to Colorado (with its very
> lamentable lack of swamps).
>
> The Frog Leg Festival in Fellsmere, Florida,
> a 4 day event every year in January,
> has more that 80,000 attendees and
> serves over 7000 frog leg dinners.
>
> You can get frog legs more or less
> everywhere along the Gulf coast from
> Florida to Texas, with a certain rivalry
> between the state of Florida and the
> environs of New Orleans as to the relative
> superiority of their respective frog legs
>
> Frog legs are available anywhere along
> the lower and central Mississippi River
> valley as well. I loan you my gig if you
> want to get you some...
>
> In 1907, James Scott even wrote a Frog
> Legs Rag, published in St. Louis:
> http://library.umkc.edu/spec-col/club-kaycee/JAZZNOTE/froglegs.htm
>
>
> Sterling K. Webb
> ------------------------------------------------------
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Anne Black" <impactika at aol.com>
> To: <element33 at peconic.net>; <sterling_k_webb at sbcglobal.net>;
> <karmaka-meteorites at t-online.de>; <mexicodoug at aim.com>;
> <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2012 5:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Bicentenary of the meteorite of Toulouse
>
>
>>A few years ago, I had some near Lyon.
>> I was told they came from Turkey. They were quite good, of course with a
>> garlic and white wine sauce.
>>
>> Anne M. Black
>> www.IMPACTIKA.com
>> IMPACTIKA at aol.com
>> Vice-President of IMCA
>> www.IMCA.cc
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Michael Bross <element33 at peconic.net>
>> To: Sterling K. Webb <sterling_k_webb at sbcglobal.net>; karmaka
>> <karmaka-meteorites at t-online.de>; MexicoDoug <mexicodoug at aim.com>;
>> Meteorite-list <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> Sent: Sun, Apr 8, 2012 4:17 pm
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Bicentenary of the meteorite of Toulouse
>>
>>
>> Hello Martin, Sterling and all
>>
>> I am not a specialist but French and loving frog legs (with garlic of
>> course)
>>
>> As far as I know, we only eat frog legs, not toad legs.
>> But more importantly, frogs and toads belong, for many years now,
>> to the endangered species list in France, thereby, you will eat
>> frog legs coming from Asia (which are much much bigger
>> and much less tastier... quite disgusting actually) unless you are in one
>> of
>> the
>> few areas where they are not in danger, like in Alsace... and a very very
>> few more !
>>
>> I would have to check, Toulouse might be one of them, but not sure
>>
>> Anyway...
>> Enjoy your trip to Toulouse, Martin.
>>
>> Michael B.
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Sterling K. Webb" <sterling_k_webb at sbcglobal.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2012 5:10 PM
>> To: "karmaka" <karmaka-meteorites at t-online.de>; "MexicoDoug"
>> <mexicodoug at aim.com>; <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Bicentenary of the meteorite of Toulouse
>>
>>> Dear Martin,
>>>
>>>> Does the hallucinogenic alkaloid of a toad's skin
>>>> secretion still have an effect once they are deep-fried?
>>>
>>> The answer is YES.
>>>
>>> Bufotenin (also known as bufotenine and cebilcin),
>>> or 5-hydroxy-dimethyltryptamine (5-HO-DMT or
>>> 5-OH-DMT) has a very high boiling point of 320 C.
>>> The vapors above or below that temperature are still
>>> psychoactively potent, as are the liquid and crystal
>>> forms (melts about 146 C).
>>>
>>> Depending on the mode of administration, bufotenin
>>> is more likely to produce dangerous cardiac effects
>>> than visions.
>>>
>>> While it is possible that deep-frying would evaporate
>>> the bufotenin and hence remove most of it from the
>>> toad's skin, I'd stick with the frogs' legs, if I were you.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sterling K. Webb
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "karmaka" <karmaka-meteorites at t-online.de>
>>> To: "MexicoDoug" <mexicodoug at aim.com>;
>>> <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2012 2:02 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Bicentenary of the meteorite of Toulouse
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Doug,
>>>>
>>>> don't worry. You can rely on the fact that if I manage to visit the
>>>> Toulouse exhibition
>>>> this summer, I will provide you all with some interesting photos. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> As for toads, escargots or anything else that might pour down
>>>> on me, there is no worry either since I bought THIS at the last art
>>>> exhibition I visited.
>>>>
>>>> FRITTI NIRODA - the METEORITE TRAP
>>>> made out of baskets for deep fat fryers
>>>>
>>>> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3403/5794279846_b9ab0fc403.jpg
>>>> http://vimeo.com/24591320
>>>>
>>>> I will carry it on top of a rod instead of a sunshade when being in
>>>> Toulouse. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> I'm a bit worried though...
>>>>
>>>> Does the hallucinogenic alkaloid of a toad's skin secretion still
>> have an
>>>> effect
>>>> once they are deep-fried?
>>>>
>>>> I don't want to be stoned before seeing the stones...
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>
>>>> Martin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Von: MexicoDoug <mexicodoug at aim.com>
>>>> An: karmaka-meteorites at t-online.de, rm31 at free.fr,
>>>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>>> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Bicentenary of the meteorite of
>> Toulouse
>>>> Datum: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 18:15:38 +0200
>>>>
>>>> Dear List, Dr. Mathieu, and Martin;
>>>>
>>>> Martin, if you do or anyone does make it there, please remember your
>>>> friends on the list who won't have the opportunity to vacation or
>> visit
>>>> the lovely southern latuitudes of France and post us a nice picture
>> for
>>>> the admiring meteorite-list of this historical group of stones. So
>>>> much to do on vacation there - see this Toulouse meteorite exhibit,
>>>> then go to the Space Center and Space City, the Kennedy Space Center
>>>> analog and lots more, of France.
>>>>
>>>> Watch out if you take the low road, as nearby Toulouse was the site
>> of
>>>> a Toad-storm from an inclement thundering sky, Two shocked horsemen
>> had
>>>> to put on their overcoats while being Toad-hammered, and gallop out
>> of
>>>> their as fast as they could, to reach a stage coach also on the way
>> to
>>>> Toulouse that witnessed the event, saw many small toads still on the
>>>> unfortunate horsemen's cloaks and when it passed through the spot
>>>> trampled many thousands of toads of all sizes. (I wonder if the
>>>> meteorite in any way biased this report?)
>>>>
>>>> A rain of escargot snails might have been more comical for France,
>> but
>>>> maybe they were toads, frogs, whatever -- after all the toadstorm was
>>>> 1834 and even today frogs and toads are varied and not recognized by
>>>> science as distinct animals. Fried frogs are a delicious part of
>>>> French cuisine that is required to try for all Beefeaters attending
>> the
>>>> exposition ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Kindest wishes
>>>> Doug
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: karmaka <karmaka-meteorites at t-online.de>
>>>> To: rm31 <rm31 at free.fr>; Meteorite-list
>>>> <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>>> Sent: Sun, Apr 8, 2012 7:31 am
>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Bicentenary of the meteorite of
>> Toulouse
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Congratulations, Dr. Mathieu, on having organised this very
>> interesting
>>>> exhibition.
>>>>
>>>> The beautiful city of Toulouse, la ? ville rose ?, is always worth a
>>>> visit !
>>>>
>>>> I'll try to visit this exhibition this summer!
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes
>>>>
>>>> Martin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Von: rm31 at free.fr
>>>> An: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>>> Betreff: [meteorite-list] Bicentenary of the meteorite of Toulouse
>>>> Datum: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 13:11:07 +0200
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi List,
>>>>
>>>> I'm pleased to invite you to the conference and exhibition for the
>>>> bicentenary
>>>> of the fall of the meteorite of Toulouse, april 10th 1812. The
>>>> exhibition will
>>>> remain until september 2nd.
>>>> This event is the materialization of 2 1/2 year of historical and
>>>> scientific
>>>> researches. It benefited from the early support of the Museum of
>>>> Toulouse (SW
>>>> France). Most of the main samples of the fall, loaned by the Museums
>>>> of New
>>>> York, Chicago, Geneva, London, Vienna, Stockholm, Troyes, Paris, and
>>>> from the
>>>> University of Tuebingen will be reunited close to their place of
>> fall,
>>>> 200
>>>> years
>>>> later to be shown to the public.
>>>>
>>>> http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2373/invitationmtoritedetoul.jpg
>>>>
>>>> J'ai le plaisir de vous inviter ? la conference et a l'exposition qui
>>>> auront
>>>> lieu au Museum de Toulouse, en celebration du bicentenaire de la
>> chute
>>>> de la
>>>> meteorite dite de "Toulouse", le 10 avril 1812. L'exposition durera
>>>> jusqu'au 2
>>>> septembre.
>>>> Cet evenement est la concretisation de deux ans et demi de recherches
>>>> historiques et scientifiques. Il est le fruit de la collaboration
>>>> entre
>>>> l'auteur
>>>> et le Museum de Toulouse et a beneficie de l'apport de dizaines de
>>>> contributeurs. Fait exceptionnel: les principaux specimens de la
>>>> meteorite de
>>>> Toulouse, pretes par les Museums of New York, Chicago, Geneve,
>>>> Londres, Vienne,
>>>> Stockholm, Troyes, Paris, et par l'Universite de Tuebingen seront ?
>>>> nouveau
>>>> r?unis ? Toulouse 200 ans plus tard pour ?tre montres au public!
>>>>
>>>> R. Mathieu
>>>> geologist
>>>>
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