[meteorite-list] Little Hope For Stuck Phobos Grunt Probe

From: Guenther <abe.guenther_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 17:02:46 -0500
Message-ID: <057601cca962$778f9750$66aec5f0$_at_guenther@mnsi.net>

Hey Count,

That is really funny! Thanks for the good laugh.

Hopefully not true but I am sure it would be very easy for them to secretly
mess with other spacecrafts if they wanted to.

Abe

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Count
Deiro
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 3:20 PM
To: Ron Baalke; Meteorite Mailing List
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Little Hope For Stuck Phobos Grunt Probe

Just an off handed comment to all,

" Russia and China are being reminded that it isn't smart to screw around
with the United States of America strategically, or economically. Strange
things can happen to your spacecraft, nuclear programs, computer systems and
the life spans of some of your more brillant scientists." If you believe
that all that tonnage was to launch a single planetary probe...you be
naive'.

Count Deiro
IMCA 3536 MetSoc


-----Original Message-----
>From: Ron Baalke <baalke at zagami.jpl.nasa.gov>
>Sent: Nov 22, 2011 9:57 AM
>To: Meteorite Mailing List <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>Subject: [meteorite-list] Little Hope For Stuck Phobos Grunt Probe
>
>
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15841896
>
>Little hope for stuck Phobos Grunt probe
>
>By Jonathan Amos
>BBC News
>November 22, 2011
>
>
> Phobos-Grunt - Mishap sequence
> * 9 Nov: The probe launches successfully on its Zenit rocket from
> the Baikonur Cosmodrome
> * It is dropped off 11 minutes later in an elliptical orbit some
> 345km above the Earth
> * Two firings from the probe's hydrazine-fuelled cruise stage were
> planed over South America
> * The first, lasting 11.5 minutes, should have raised the orbit of
> Phobos-Grunt to 4,000km
> * A second burn, four hours into the mission, was to have sent the
> probe on a path to Mars
> * Russian space agency officials say neither burn on the big cruise
> stage took place
> * The probe remains in a low-Earth orbit while the anomaly is
> investigated by engineers
> * After two weeks, contact is still impossible; but the probe
> maintains its orbit
> * Eventually, it would fall back to Earth. Roscosmos says perhaps
> between December and February
>
>The Russian space agency has conceded there is now little chance of
>reviving its Mars mission, Phobos-Grunt.
>
>The probe has been stuck circling the Earth since its launch on 9
>November, unable to fire the engine that would take it on to the Red
Planet.
>
>Engineers have tried in vain to contact the spacecraft, and Roscosmos
>deputy head Vitaliy Davydov said the situation now looked very grim.
>
>"One should be a realist," he was quoted as saying by RIA Novosti.
>
>"If we've been unable to establish communication with [Phobos-Grunt] for
>such a long time, there are few chances that we shall fulfil the
>expedition now," were his comments reported by the Russian news agency
>at a press conference in mission control centre at Korolev on the
>outskirts of Moscow.
>
>"If we establish contact [with the probe] and begin to understand what's
>wrong with it, then we shall be able to draw some conclusions," Davydov
>said.
>
>Later, another Russian news agency, Interfax, quoted Davydov as saying
>that Phobos-Grunt might fall from orbit anytime between late December
>2011 and February 2012.
>
>"It is an interesting question how [the probe] will behave. There is
>fuel on board. If there is an explosion, it is one thing, but if it
>simply starts falling apart with no explosion, then it is another
>thing," Interfax reported the deputy head as saying.
>
>The spacecraft weighed some 13 tonnes at launch - double the mass of
>Nasa's recently re-entered UARS satellite.
>
>What is more, most of the 13 tonnes is made up by the propellants
>unsymmetrical dimethylhydrazine (UDMH) and dinitrogen tetroxide (DTO),
>both of which are toxic.
>
>If the Phobos-Grunt mission is truly lost, then professional and amateur
>groups will be modelling its orbit in an attempt to determine precisely
>where and when it might come down.
>
>As with UARS, much of the spacecraft will burn up in the atmosphere; but
>any parts made of high-temperature metals, such as titanium or stainless
>steel, stand a chance of making it all the way to the surface.
>
>Indeed, it is the fuel tanks that often survive the fall because their
>spherical shapes enable them to spin up and dissipate heat more easily.
>
>However, the probability is that any debris would hit the ocean, given
>that more than 70% of the Earth's surface is covered by water. This was
>the case with UARS and the German Rosat X-Ray telescope that returned to
>Earth last month.
>
>To date, Phobos-Grunt has been maintaining its orbit, but trackers will
>be monitoring the spacecraft closely to catch any change in its behaviour.
>
>The probe was built to land on the Martian moon Phobos and scoop up rock
>for return to Earth. Such a venture would yield fascinating new insights
>into the origin of the 27km-wide moon and the planet it circles.
>
>The mission was also notable because China's first Mars satellite,
>Yinghuo-1, was launched piggy-back on the main Russian spacecraft.
>
>Jonathan.Amos-INTERNET at bbc.co.uk
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