[meteorite-list] Fwd: Colorado Lunar Feldspathic Breccia

From: MexicoDoug <mexicodoug_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 21:05:20 -0400 (EDT)
Message-ID: <8CE6A3749E3A7D7-AE4-ABFCF_at_webmail-m156.sysops.aol.com>

Dear list,

I have been asked by Mr. Steve Curry of UNCO meteorites to share this
with others; however I have no further comment. Steve asks me to share
it with the meteorite world, and as I presented a response, just to
insure none of my answer arrives in the inbox of anyone else who
unknown to me is on this message distribution I am posting Steve's
request and my response. I have absolutely no time to get involved
with authenticity disputes so I wash my hands of this and consider
myself alien to this subject now that I have duly passed the
information as was very courteously requested.

Steve: it looked like you took a lot of effort to compose your message
to me and considering its civil tone and even a bit of unnecessary
flattery; I think everyone I know who would be concerned can read it
here. As I've done with many subjects in the past, though when I say
I'm done talking about them, I stick to my word. There is just too
much to do and hopefully the concerned channels can address this
dispute.

Kindest wishes
Doug



-----Original Message-----
From: MexicoDoug <mexicodoug at aim.com>
To: tim_97124 <tim_97124 at yahoo.com>; cwheileg <cwheileg at gmail.com>
Sent: Sat, Nov 5, 2011 8:50 pm
Subject: Re: Colorado Lunar Feldspathic Breccia


Hi Steve; Tim;

"This is an opportunity for you to set things right, and become a hero!"

I just received a private email and now an answer from Tim Stout. I'm
a little bit confused how that happened so my spidey senses are
tingling as I write this answer.

I already am a hero to my family and have not the energy to become
embroiled in meteorite authenticity disputes when I have my own
rockpile to get classified and MetSoc recognized classification
scientists are always in short supply when you need them.

There are many more interesting things for me to pursue in life at the
moment. So, I will respectfully decline and hope you can solve your
differences with these dealers without my input as you say images can
be misleading as much as helpful depending on whose hands they are
being passed.

Additionally my areas of meteorite interest are least of all in Lunar
meteorites or I would be quicker to step forward; there are enough
rocks on earth that are similar enough to them with minor differences
that they hold little interest for me except historical when related to
the Apollo and Luna missions. My interest is in more primitive mineral
species.

But with all due respect regarding your unpublished specimens, I wish
you the best of luck. Even if some or all are not meteorites, hunting
for minerals in beautiful Colorado country will keep you in good
health, and I say this without prejudice.

Kindest wishes
Doug




-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Stout <tim_97124 at yahoo.com>
To: Steve Curry <cwheileg at gmail.com>; MexicoDoug <mexicodoug at aim.com>
Sent: Sat, Nov 5, 2011 8:04 pm
Subject: Re: Colorado Lunar Feldspathic Breccia



Eoooooo I like wagers... But who shall be the quailified 3rd party who
will judge this contest? And where?would you like to?set up the escrow
account?
I have $$$ and like to bet, so tell me more!!!
?
T.S.




From: Steve Curry <cwheileg at gmail.com>
To: MexicoDoug <mexicodoug at aim.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2011 1:46 PM
Subject: Colorado Lunar Feldspathic Breccia


Hi, Doug; ?Given the fact, that you are one of the very few sane,
honest, and straight-shooting fellows in the IMCA, I'm thinking you may
be the one to initiate a correction of a serious wrong. ?I'm thinking,
too, that it's time to end the drama, and the mystery, as to whether
Lunar meteorites have, actually, been recovered in North America! ?This
should, at the very least, prompt some very serious & sincere
scientific inquiries. ?This is providing, of course, our "esteemed
scientists" decide to do the right thing for the country they serve!
?? ? I realize, as well, that there are no scientists, collectors, or
dealers, who will admit to using photographic means to recognize
meteorites and their extraterrestrial signatures, and compositions.
?Yet, all scientists, dealers, and collectors, use thin section
imagery, to authenticate, classify, and recognize meteorites.
?{Korotev, for example, uses just photography, all the time, to dismiss
genuine meteorites as "meteorwrongs!"} ?As silly as is sounds, thin
section imagery "IS PHOTOGRAPHY!" ?As in the case of genuine science,
logic, and rational thinking, this issue of "photography" won't make
any sense to most of the IMCA membership. ?These people will only
believe what the "scientists" tell them to think, making the old adage
of, "It's not WHAT you know, but Who!" truer than ever! ?{So, what's
wrong with this PICTURE?!!!} ?
?? ? This is an opportunity for you to set things right, and become a
hero! ?Be sure to forward this message & images all of your mates, and,
particularly, to Adam Hupe, and to Blaine Reed, who claims to have a
"degree in geology." ?
?? ? On this subject, I'm finding that it's better not to have a
"degree in geology!" ?Most universities, around the country, do not
teach meteoritics, as part of their Geology programs! ?This is despite
the fact, that meteorites brought life to the planet, asteroids &
supernova debris brought our precious metals, and comets brought our
water!! ?None of these universal entities have anything to do with
planetary geology!!!......so say the academic professionals!?
?? ? The following links will be of great help to you! ?When you are
ready for more specimen images and links, just let me know. ?I can
match thin sections, petrologies, mineralogies, and elemental
chemistries, to nearly all the Apollo Lunars, NWA's, Antarctica, and
Australian lunars! ?Any wagers?


http://www.saharamoon.com/


http://www.meteoritecollector.org/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1313


Cheers!
Steve Curry
UNCO Meteorites
Received on Sat 05 Nov 2011 09:05:20 PM PDT