[meteorite-list] Scam Artist - Blacklist
From: Mark Hirsch <markhirschphoto_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 12:21:49 -0500 Message-ID: <BANLkTi=KyoxESY=byHKCsoxXTrQ2hSAgYg_at_mail.gmail.com> I would advise that the other risk associated with compiling and publishing a blacklist is the potential for libeling someone. Libel has a serious legal risk and cost associated with it. One needs to be very careful as illustrated by this thread and the potential for wrongly implicating innocent individuals. Best, Mark IMCA #5492 Mark Hirsch Photojournalist 2076 Airport Road Platteville, WI 53818 Cell 563-590-2710 markhirsch at markhirschphoto.com http://www.markhirschphoto.com Providing professional photojournalism and commercial photography services. On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Michael Mulgrew <mikestang at gmail.com> wrote: > > List, > > So the very first post speaking to putting together a black list > incorrectly accuses someone of being a fraud? ?Seems to me like trying > to compile such a list would end up causing way more grief than it > would solve. > > Regards, > Michael in so. Cal. > > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Robert Woolard > <meteoritefinder at yahoo.com> wrote: > > Hello All, > > > > ? I wholeheartedly agree with Frank and Dave. There has to be a huge misunderstanding/mistake made somewhere along the way in listing Todd Parker as a scammer. From the all-too-little time that I have had the pleasure of being in Todd's company, I can most definitely say that he is an absolutely GREAT person, one of the nicest most friendly guys you could ever hope to meet! The list of attributes that Dave listed in the previous email describes Todd perfectly. > > > > ? Al, I firmly believe that if if you will look back over whatever info you based this on, you will find it was not him that you were thinking about. > > > > ? Sincerely, > > ? Robert Woolard > > > > > > ?--- On Thu, 5/12/11, Frank Cressy <fcressy at prodigy.net> wrote: > > > >> From: Frank Cressy <fcressy at prodigy.net> > >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Scam Artist - Joel Samson - FakeLunar Meteorites > >> To: dave at fallingrocks.com > >> Cc: "meteoritelist" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > >> Date: Thursday, May 12, 2011, 10:01 AM > >> Hello All, > >> > >> Dave Gheesling can't post to the list at the moment, but > >> given the seriousness > >> of the accusation made against Todd Parker, he asked that I > >> post this on his > >> behalf: > >> > >> His message?follows: > >> > >> Hello List, > >> While I haven't seen where Todd Parker's name was mentioned > >> as a "possible > >> scammer" other than in Al Mitterling's recent post?(I > >> haven't been closely > >> following the thread),?TODD PARKER?MOST ASSUREDLY IS NOT > >> A SCAMMER OR ANYTHING > >> OF THE SORT.? To the contrary, Todd is probably one of the > >> finest people I've > >> had the pleasure of knowing -- inside or outside of the > >> meteorite community. > >> Presumably this mention has something to do with the recent > >> Mifflin thread, but > >> Todd's name shouldn't be associated with anything other > >> than integrity -- he is > >> a class act, to be sure. > >> All the best, > >> Dave > >> > >> -------- Original Message -------- > >> >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Scam Artist - Joel Samson > >> - FakeLunar > >> >Meteorites > >> >From: Frank Cressy <fcressy at prodigy.net> > >> >Date: Thu, May 12, 2011 10:45 am > >> >To: al mitt <almitt at kconline.com>, > >> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > >> >Cc: Chris Spratt <cspratt at islandnet.com> > >> > > >> >Hi Al, > >> > > >> >You made a mistake listing Todd Parker as a scammer. > >> He was mentioned as > >> >selling Whetstone Mountains that were definitely real. > >> > > >> >Frank > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >----- Original Message ---- > >> >From: al mitt <almitt at kconline.com> > >> >To: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > >> >Cc: Chris Spratt <cspratt at islandnet.com> > >> >Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 5:57:42 AM > >> >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Scam Artist - Joel Samson > >> - FakeLunar Meteorites > >> > > >> >Hi Gary, Greg H., Chris and all, > >> > > >> >Two names have come up recently as scammers. Joel > >> Samson and Todd Parker. We > >> >also know of another guy from the Chicago area that is > >> a fraud. What I would > >> >like to see is a list of people and companies that are > >> known to be selling > >> >fakes, mis-representing material and so forth. I am not > >> talking about > >> >someone who has made a mistake. > >> > > >> >In order to qualify, the person or company in question > >> would have to have > >> >evidence that would support their efforts to be > >> purposely doing something > >> >wrong. I wouldn't want a witch hunt or dealers who > >> don't like other dealers, > >> >trying to put people on this list. I know this is > >> probably going to open a > >> >can of worms BUT it is important to know suspect con > >> artists, frauds and > >> >people and companies who are just not getting the fact > >> we don't like our > >> >collections messed up. > >> > > >> >Does a list already exist? If not it sure would be nice > >> to have one that > >> >could be shared with the collecting community from time > >> to time. Other input > >> >appreciated. > >> > > >> >--AL Mitterling > >> > > >> >----- Original Message ----- > >> >From: "Gary Fujihara" <fujmon at mac.com> > >> >To: "Chris Spratt" <cspratt at islandnet.com> > >> >Cc: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 3:41 PM > >> >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Scam Artist - Joel Samson > >> - FakeLunar > >> >Meteorites > >> > > >> > > >> >> I've asked the administrator of the Meteorites > >> group on Facebook to remove > >> >> this person from the group.? Hopefully this will > >> put a damper on his > >> >> shenanigans, but probably nothing short of legal > >> action will make him > >> >> cease and desist. > >> >> > >> >> gary > >> >> > >> >> On May 11, 2011, at 8:50 AM, Chris Spratt wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> Never was my friend on Facebook yet he managed > >> to post things in a group > >> >>> I belong to. Is there a way to unfriend > >> someone from a group? > >> >>> > >> >>> Chris Spratt > >> >>> (Via my iPhone) > >> >>> > >> ______________________________________________ > >> >>> Visit the Archives at > >> >>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > >> >>> Meteorite-list mailing list > >> >>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > >> >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >> >> > >> >> Gary Fujihara > >> >> Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) > >> >> 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 > >> >> http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ > >> >> http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html > >> >> (808) 640-9161 > >> >> > >> >> ______________________________________________ > >> >> Visit the Archives at > >> >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > >> >> Meteorite-list mailing list > >> >> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > >> >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >> >> > >> > > >> >______________________________________________ > >> >Visit the Archives at > >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > >> >Meteorite-list mailing list > >> >Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > >> >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >> > > >> >______________________________________________ > >> >Visit the Archives at > >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > >> >Meteorite-list mailing list > >> >Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > >> >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >> > > >> ______________________________________________ > >> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > >> Meteorite-list mailing list > >> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > ______________________________________________ > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Received on Thu 12 May 2011 01:21:49 PM PDT |
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