[meteorite-list] Scam Artist - Joel Samson - Fake LunarMeteorites

From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 15:03:07 -0400
Message-ID: <BANLkTinUvF9_pYv3_VKY3qesOuOpVhdWNg_at_mail.gmail.com>

Hi Greg,

I didn't mean to imply that you were friends on FB with this Samson
guy. But thanks for pointing this guy out to the List. After reading
Gary's reply, I vaguely recall this guy or one of his scams
previously, many many months back on FB. But like many such scammers,
they appear and then fade back into the wood works. Has the Meteorite
Identification website updated their known list of scammers to include
this guy? I don't recall who runs that website, but that person keeps
a solid record of known scammers on eBay and elsewhere.

PS - I have the main mass of ALH84001 available if anyone is
interested. Please send cash (Quatloos only) to my offshore PO box,
and the specimen will be delivered to you by registered bicycle
courier. ;)

Best regards,

MikeG

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On 5/11/11, Greg Hup? <gmhupe at centurylink.net> wrote:
> Hello MikeG,
>
> Scam Artist, Joel Samson, is not a 'friend' of mine on Facebook. He has been
> allowed to be a member of the Facebook group, "Meteorites", where a lot of
> meteorite enthusiasts share images, etc. This is where Joel posted his bogus
> garbage. I was sent a private message alerting my of Joel's scam, so in
> turn, I notified Adam, Siegfried and the IMCA and MetList forums. At the
> very least, he needs to be booted from the "Meteorites" group on Facebook
> and anyone who has 'friended' him needs to 'unfriend' him!
>
> Best Regards,
> Greg Hup?
>
> ====================
> Greg Hup?
> The Hup? Collection
> gmhupe at centurylink.net
> www.LunarRock.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks
> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 2:31 PM
> To: Adam Hupe
> Cc: Adam
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Scam Artist - Joel Samson - Fake
> LunarMeteorites
>
> Hi Adam, Randy, and List,
>
> Thank you for posting his. Lately (the last couple of months), I have
> been much more careful about who I approve as a friend on Facebook.
> Fortunately, this person is not on my friends list, but, I do have 13
> out of 2100 friends who have approved this person as a friend. If you
> are one of these 13 people, I strongly suggest that you remove this
> scammer from your friends list. Some of these 13 people are members
> of this List.
>
> I would be immediately suspect of any lunar that big and it certainly
> doesn't look like any NWA 5000 I have seen. Thankfully, Adam and Greg
> keep proper records and know this specimen is absolutely bogus (even
> if it did look like 5000, which it does not).
>
> This touches on what was being discussed recently about provenance and
> authenticity.
>
> Facebook is a great tool to meet new people (and clients or trading
> partners), but it can also be used by scammers to swindle the unwary -
> like any medium of communication. Don't be scared of FB or forsake
> it, just be sensible and cautious until you learn the nature of the FB
> landscape (and the denizens that populate it).
>
> Best regards,
>
> MikeG
>
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>
> On 5/11/11, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Dear List Members,
>>
>> This is yet another attempt by a psychopath alias Joel Samson to defraud
>> the
>> meteorite market. This is not NWA 5K. Every piece of the most spectacular
>> and
>> highest appraised meteorite in the world over a couple of grams has its
>> own
>> portfolio, serial number and is recorded in a registry. No such 30 gram
>> piece
>> has been recorded and no pairings exists.
>>
>> This is not the first time somebody has fraudulently offered this
>> meteorite
>> and
>> surely it won?t be the last so buyers beware. If it doesn?t have a colored
>> ID
>> card, be cautious. If the offering weighs more than a couple of grams, it
>> will
>> come with its own portfolio and custom signed C.O.A. with a seal. The
>> C.O.A
>> will also describe the exact specimen with an image of it. The weights
>> and
>> serial numbers of the first-hand distribution are recorded in a registry.
>> Every
>> milligram of this meteorite has been inventoried. The only two legitimate
>> parties offering any NWA 5K right now are Anne Black and I. The only
>> exception
>> would be a previous purchased piece is being re-offered in which case it
>> should
>> include proper supporting documentation.
>>
>> I wish everybody safe collecting,
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>> The image Greg posted might as well be a "Wanted Poster", talk about
>> stupid!
>>
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