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Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 12:44:20 -0400 Message-ID: <B8584A9166FC482AA7530EDC7E49B119_at_JerryPCBamboo> WOW!!!!!!!!!! Huh? -----Original Message----- From: meteorite-list-request at meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 12:00 PM To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Subject: Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 92, Issue 85 Send Meteorite-list mailing list submissions to meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to meteorite-list-request at meteoritecentral.com You can reach the person managing the list at meteorite-list-owner at meteoritecentral.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Meteorite-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. AD - 24hrs eBay Benguerir Slice - Japan Benefit (fallingfusion at wi.rr.com) 2. MESSENGER Sends Back First Image of Mercury from Orbit (Shawn Alan) 3. Color of OC's by Staining or by Trace Elements (Laurence Garvie) 4. Tucson event change (April 9th) (Mark Bowling) 5. Re: Response to fraudulent E-bay listing using my name (Impactika (Brian Cox) 6. Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 31, 2011 (Michael Johnson) 7. Schellin (Jan Woreczko - www.meteoritica.eu) 8. Ft. Collins, CO meteor 6:20 am 31MAR2011 (drtanuki) 9. Re: Color of OC's by Staining or by Trace Elements (Count Deiro) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 23:04:17 -0400 From: <fallingfusion at wi.rr.com> Subject: [meteorite-list] AD - 24hrs eBay Benguerir Slice - Japan Benefit To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: <20110331030417.UJ2DL.8949.root at cdptpa-web11-z02> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Good Evening List, I had listed a very nice, thin slice of Benguerir LL6 - it now closes in just over 24hrs and the current bid is still at $18 (!). As an additional note on this auction, 20% of the final sale price will go to the Japan Earthquake and Tsunami Relief fund. As always, thank you for your time and consideration. All the best, Ryan http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270725585123&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 22:06:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Shawn Alan <photophlow at yahoo.com> Subject: [meteorite-list] MESSENGER Sends Back First Image of Mercury from Orbit To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: <613608.51616.qm at web35403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ron and Listers Great post Ron and I think I see NWA 2999 :) Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html [meteorite-list] MESSENGER Sends Back First Image of Mercury from OrbitRon Baalke baalke at zagami.jpl.nasa.gov Wed Mar 30 13:40:43 EDT 2011 Previous message: [meteorite-list] Color of OC's by Staining or by Trace Elements Next message: [meteorite-list] MESSENGER Sends Back First Image of Mercury from Orbit Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/news_room/details.php?id=165 MESSENGER Mission News March 29, 2011 MESSENGER Sends Back First Image of Mercury from Orbit MESSENGER has delivered its first image <http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/sciencePhotos/image.php?gallery_id=2&image_id=432> since entering orbit about Mercury on March 17. It was taken today at 5:20 am EDT by the Mercury Dual Imaging System as the spacecraft sailed high above Mercury's south pole, and provides a glimpse of portions of Mercury's surface not previously seen by spacecraft. The image was acquired as part of the orbital commissioning phase of the MESSENGER mission. Continuous global mapping of Mercury will begin on April 4. "The entire MESSENGER team is thrilled that spacecraft and instrument checkout has been proceeding according to plan," says MESSENGER Principal Investigator Sean Solomon, of the Carnegie Institution of Washington. "The first images from orbit and the first measurements from MESSENGER's other payload instruments are only the opening trickle of the flood of new information that we can expect over the coming year. The orbital exploration of the Solar System's innermost planet has begun." Several other images will be available Wednesday, March 30, in conjunction with a media teleconference at 2 p.m. EDT to discuss the initial orbital images taken from the first spacecraft to orbit Mercury. Media teleconference participants are: -- Sean Solomon, MESSENGER principal investigator, Carnegie Institution of Washington -- Eric Finnegan, MESSENGER mission systems engineer, Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory, Laurel. Md. To participate in the teleconference, reporters must contact Dwayne Brown at dwayne.c.brown at nasa.gov or 202-358-1726 for dial-in instructions. During the teleconference, MESSENGER information and images will be available at http://www.nasa.gov/messenger and http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/news_room/presscon8.html. Audio of the teleconference will be streamed live on NASA's website at: http://www.nasa.gov/newsaudio. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ /MESSENGER (MErcury Surface, Space ENvironment, GEochemistry, and Ranging) is a NASA-sponsored scientific investigation of the planet Mercury and the first space mission designed to orbit the planet closest to the Sun. The MESSENGER spacecraft launched on August 3, 2004, and entered orbit about Mercury on March 17, 2011 (March 18, 2011 UTC), to begin a yearlong study of its target planet. Dr. Sean C. Solomon, of the Carnegie Institution of Washington, leads the mission as Principal Investigator. The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory built and operates the MESSENGER spacecraft and manages this Discovery-class mission for NASA. Previous message: [meteorite-list] Color of OC's by Staining or by Trace Elements Next message: [meteorite-list] MESSENGER Sends Back First Image of Mercury from Orbit Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the Meteorite-list mailing list ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 23:30:06 -0700 From: Laurence Garvie <lgarvie at asu.edu> Subject: [meteorite-list] Color of OC's by Staining or by Trace Elements To: "meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> Message-ID: <E2C494A3-8A3F-47F9-8570-B81EEBEBF987 at asu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Just a quick reply to this subject as it could become lengthy and involved. The primary coloring agent in meteorites is Fe2+ for fresh meteorites and Fe3+ for weathered ones (BTW - shocked meteorites can be black - see below). There is also Fe0, which is in the metal. When a few percent of Fe2+ is present, then minerals such as pyroxenes and olivines are usually green to greenish-yellow. A good example of Fe2+ coloring is in Johnstown, which is composed primarily of green pyroxene. If very little Fe2+ is present then pyroxene is normally white/clear as in the aubrites, such as Bishopville. In our oxidizing atmosphere, the metals in meteorites rust, producing Fe3+ -bearing oxides/oxyhydroxides. These rust minerals stain the meteorite and can range in color from yellow-orange-red-purple-brown-black. Shocked meteorites can be black. A great comparison is between the two know chassignites - Chassigny and NWA2737, both of which have similar mineralogies. Fresh Chassigny is yellowish green - the color is caused by Fe2+ in the olivine. Yet, NWA2737 is black. The black color is caused by abundant 5 to 15 nanometer-sized iron-nickel droplets in the olivine, which are strongly absorbing in the visible and near-IR region of the spectrum. These droplets are formed during intense shock events. Practically everything you ever wanted to know about color in minerals can be found at Prof. Rossman's site at http://minerals.gps.caltech.edu/ Laurence CMS ASU On Mar 30, 2011, at 7:52 PM, meteorite-list-request at meteoritecentral.com wrote: > essage: 3 > Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 12:20:31 -0400 > From: Michael Gilmer <meteoritemike at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Color of OC's by Staining or by Trace > Elements > To: Thunder Stone <stanleygregr at hotmail.com> > Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > Message-ID: > <AANLkTin9FfUsroBhMrVFDfH1_GCoss3B3L-vFf9zJ6T_ at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi Greg and List, > > Great question Greg. I'm curious to hear what the experts have to say. > > Some OC's start out as white or light-grey - like some LL6 types. > That is why some LL6 meteorites are mistaken for lunars or eucrites - > because they lack chondrules and have that whitish color. > > Best regards, > > MikeG > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone & Ironworks Meteorites > > Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com > Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone > News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 > Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone > EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > On 3/30/11, Thunder Stone <stanleygregr at hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi List: >> I hope everyone is well. >> I have a question regarding the 'color' of OC's through staining by some >> mineral influx or by oxidation. It appears most fresh OC's start out as a >> light beige or tan color; then through time the metal rusts and they often >> turn yellowish, orange, or brownish - this make sense. My questions is >> this: >> What other colors can they become, blue or green? What element(s) result in >> different colors? What different weathering processes are involved? >> The reason I ask is because I have a weathered meteorite that is dark green >> in color; it looks like jade and I have not seen any like this one before. >> I have also and seen OC's with a 'black' color, what causes that? >> Thanks, >> Greg S. >> ______________________________________________ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Laurence A.J. Garvie Collections Manager Center for Meteorite Studies School of Earth and Space Exploration Arizona State University Tempe AZ 85287-1404 USA phone: 480 965 3361 fax: 480 965 8102 email: lgarvie at asu.edu Weblinks: School of Earth and Space Exploration: http://sese.asu.edu/ Center for Meteorite Studies: http://meteorites.asu.edu/ ----------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 23:25:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Bowling <minador at yahoo.com> Subject: [meteorite-list] Tucson event change (April 9th) To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com, meteorite_hunters at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <109809.46019.qm at web161402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hey all, Tonight the TMC voted to?move their 2nd meeting?to next Saturday the 9th. With the?4th avenue street fair going on this weekend, parking would be next to impossible and the Sky Bar would be packed making it difficult to?hear one another and?to show off our meteorites.? If any locals learn that someone is planning to go this Saturday, please let them know it will be next week. Thanks, Mark B. Vail, AZ ----- Original Message ---- From: Mark Bowling <minador at yahoo.com> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com; meteorite_hunters at yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 1:25:51 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] UPDATE on Tucson event (April 2nd) Just wanted to let everyone know that the 4th Avenue Street Fair will be in full swing during our gathering, so parking will be difficult.? Expect delays! Our very own Lisa Marie Morrison (of Sirocco Design)?may be set up near the Sky Bar?selling her jewelry (including some meteorite jewelry!).? So we may have an impromptu field trip (our very first)! Clear skies, ? ~El Minador ----- Original Message ---- From: Mark Bowling <minador at yahoo.com> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com; meteorite_hunters at yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, March 27, 2011 12:20:41 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Gathering in Tucson Saturday!!! (4/2) Hey all, Saturday April 2nd the Tucson Meteorite Club will be gathering at the Skybar around noonish.? Feel free to join us?if you will be in?the Tucson area.? Last month we had some excellent meteorites and gear for show & tell - it seemed like everyone had a great time!! There are many?good restaurants in the area for before/after the gathering,?or you can order Brooklyn Pizza next door and have it delivered to the Sky Bar.? Think about it.... fun, fellowship, food?y????METEORITOS!!! http://www.skybartucson.com/ 536 N. 4th Avenue Ph. 622-4300 Mark B. Vail, AZ ______________________________________________ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ______________________________________________ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 05:40:42 -0500 From: "Brian Cox" <searchingforfun at sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Response to fraudulent E-bay listing using my name (Impactika To: "Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> Message-ID: <FAC8E0C7011A4138BE6261F38A0BC966 at BrianPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hello Blaine, Anne and Richard, list, Blaine, that's very unfortunate that you have to deal with hooligans who misrepresented information and added the Ni to your card when you wrote down the information for them. I'm sure you'll figure out a better way for yourself in the future and you've probably decided to never write anything on your card or with your name or information that morons like these characters can use fraudulently to discredit your good name. It's sad that we have to deal with a group of get-rich-quick greedy goofballs trying to run for office in our government let alone the same mentality of imbeciles trying to sell earth rocks as meteorites. I hope you get a response from ebay, but that fraudulent section on ebay auctions only generates an automatic response email to you and you can't reply back to it. I'll send you a separate email with a contact at ebay who can hopefully help you out. Have a great day and I hope the listing is pulled. All the best! Brian Message: 1 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 17:39:26 -0600 From: Impactika <impactika at aol.com> Subject: Re: [IMCA] Response to fraudulent E-bay listing using my name To: imca at imcamail.de Message-ID: <3dc5a4e8.db7b.4b9b.9aa4.d08abf569f71 at aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello Members, A few days ago Richard Montgomery brought to my attention that someone was selling a "meteorite" on Ebay using Blaine Reed's name. I forwarded the information to Blaine, and here is his response, below. Thank you Richard. And please do let us know if you all see any other similar problems on Ebay. Thank you. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com IMPACTIKA at aol.com President of IMCA www.IMCA.cc In a message dated 03/30/11 15:20:11 Mountain Daylight Time, brmeteorites at yahoo.com writes: Hi everybody, I just got home from another long trip to find people asking me about this fraudulent E-Bay listing using my name. I did indeed do analysis work on three different pieces of the same stuff for these people at the Tucson show. The results were given, as shown, as simply written on the back of my card. HOWEVER, these jerks ADDED the Ni next to the Fe to what I had written and claimed that the number represented the combination of Fe and Ni. There was NO nickel what so ever in any of the three samples. I told them several times point blank that they DO NOT HAVE A METEORITE. What they had was a quite titanium rich magnetite. I also told them (as a consolation of sorts) that, if there was enough of this stuff where they found it, they may have the makings of a titanium mine. I guess this is a serious blow to my model of offering analysis of specimens for the public. It seems that there is no way I can stop these delusional idiots from misrepresenting or outright falsifying the data I give them (as these people did). I may have to reconsider my plans for offering this service (or how I handle delivering the data at the very least). I want to ask people out there to keep an eye out for these jokers offering this stuff again and let me know if they do (brmeteorites at yahoo.com). I have tried to file a complaint with E-Bbay on this listing, but was only given 100 characters (about a dozen words) to describe my problem/ issue with the listing! No way I can explain to the don't give a damn people at Ebay in that little space. I'll try again none the less if someone lets me know about a similar listing while it is still active. Thanks or your help and understanding (that i would never give the thumbs up to something so obviously bogus). Blaine ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 04:51:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Johnson <michael at rocksfromspace.org> Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 31, 2011 To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: <218974131.8376451301572299365.JavaMail.root at mbs17.homesteadmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/March_31_2011.html --- ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 15:00:46 +0200 From: "Jan Woreczko - www.meteoritica.eu" <ebay at biol.uw.edu.pl> Subject: [meteorite-list] Schellin To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> Message-ID: <0E7C947CC6F7413B9324261A6C6BC0CB at BigLebovsky> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Ha I need a photo of a specimen or fragments meteorite Schellin. Main mass is in the NHM in Berlin. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=23457 woreczko.jan at gmail.com Best wishes Woreczko ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 07:50:59 -0700 (PDT) From: drtanuki <drtanuki at yahoo.com> Subject: [meteorite-list] Ft. Collins, CO meteor 6:20 am 31MAR2011 To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: <483126.88176.qm at web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dear List, http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2011/03/fort-collins-colorado-meteor-31mar2011.html Dirk Ross... Tokyo ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 08:03:43 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: Count Deiro <countdeiro at earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Color of OC's by Staining or by Trace Elements To: Laurence Garvie <lgarvie at asu.edu>, "meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> Message-ID: <13865130.1301583823793.JavaMail.root at elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Thank you, Dr. Garvie. Very useful and concise. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -----Original Message----- >From: Laurence Garvie <lgarvie at asu.edu> >Sent: Mar 30, 2011 11:30 PM >To: "meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> >Subject: [meteorite-list] Color of OC's by Staining or by Trace Elements > >Just a quick reply to this subject as it could become lengthy and involved. > >The primary coloring agent in meteorites is Fe2+ for fresh meteorites and Fe3+ for weathered ones (BTW - shocked meteorites can be black - see below). There is also Fe0, which is in the metal. > >When a few percent of Fe2+ is present, then minerals such as pyroxenes and olivines are usually green to greenish-yellow. A good example of Fe2+ coloring is in Johnstown, which is composed primarily of green pyroxene. > >If very little Fe2+ is present then pyroxene is normally white/clear as in the aubrites, such as Bishopville. > >In our oxidizing atmosphere, the metals in meteorites rust, producing Fe3+ -bearing oxides/oxyhydroxides. These rust minerals stain the meteorite and can range in color from yellow-orange-red-purple-brown-black. > >Shocked meteorites can be black. A great comparison is between the two know chassignites - Chassigny and NWA2737, both of which have similar mineralogies. Fresh Chassigny is yellowish green - the color is caused by Fe2+ in the olivine. Yet, NWA2737 is black. The black color is caused by abundant 5 to 15 nanometer-sized iron-nickel droplets in the olivine, which are strongly absorbing in the visible and near-IR region of the spectrum. These droplets are formed during intense shock events. > >Practically everything you ever wanted to know about color in minerals can be found at Prof. Rossman's site at http://minerals.gps.caltech.edu/ > > >Laurence >CMS >ASU > >On Mar 30, 2011, at 7:52 PM, meteorite-list-request at meteoritecentral.com wrote: > >> essage: 3 >> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 12:20:31 -0400 >> From: Michael Gilmer <meteoritemike at gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Color of OC's by Staining or by Trace >> Elements >> To: Thunder Stone <stanleygregr at hotmail.com> >> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >> Message-ID: >> <AANLkTin9FfUsroBhMrVFDfH1_GCoss3B3L-vFf9zJ6T_ at mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> Hi Greg and List, >> >> Great question Greg. I'm curious to hear what the experts have to say. >> >> Some OC's start out as white or light-grey - like some LL6 types. >> That is why some LL6 meteorites are mistaken for lunars or eucrites - >> because they lack chondrules and have that whitish color. >> >> Best regards, >> >> MikeG >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone & Ironworks Meteorites >> >> Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com >> Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone >> News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 >> Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone >> EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> On 3/30/11, Thunder Stone <stanleygregr at hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi List: >>> I hope everyone is well. >>> I have a question regarding the 'color' of OC's through staining by some >>> mineral influx or by oxidation. It appears most fresh OC's start out as a >>> light beige or tan color; then through time the metal rusts and they often >>> turn yellowish, orange, or brownish - this make sense. My questions is >>> this: >>> What other colors can they become, blue or green? What element(s) result in >>> different colors? What different weathering processes are involved? >>> The reason I ask is because I have a weathered meteorite that is dark green >>> in color; it looks like jade and I have not seen any like this one before. >>> I have also and seen OC's with a 'black' color, what causes that? >>> Thanks, >>> Greg S. >>> ______________________________________________ >>> Visit the Archives at >>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> >> >> >> -- >> > >----------------------------------------------------------- >Dr. Laurence A.J. Garvie >Collections Manager >Center for Meteorite Studies >School of Earth and Space Exploration >Arizona State University >Tempe >AZ 85287-1404 >USA > >phone: 480 965 3361 >fax: 480 965 8102 >email: lgarvie at asu.edu > >Weblinks: >School of Earth and Space Exploration: http://sese.asu.edu/ >Center for Meteorite Studies: http://meteorites.asu.edu/ > >----------------------------------------------------------- > > > >______________________________________________ >Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list End of Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 92, Issue 85 **********************************************Received on Thu 31 Mar 2011 12:44:20 PM PDT |
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